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Old 06-25-2013, 01:37 PM
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Default A question about Phillips 15-50 oil

Does anyone know if it has the additive LYCOMING wants for their engines?
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:05 PM
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No. As far as I know only Exxon Elite 20-50, Aeroshell 15-50 Multigrade, Aeroshell 100W Plus, Aeroshell 80W Plus have it, or some approved form of the additive.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:27 PM
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Does anyone know if it has the additive LYCOMING wants for their engines?
I'm a huge believer in Mike Busch Savvy aviator where the only good additive is Cam Guard. Since the multi-grade's will drip off the Cam first after use. The cam guard will protect from non-use. I also switch from multi- grade to strait weight in the summer for more heat protection -YMMV-
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:28 PM
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Nothing but Aeroshell 100W Plus and Camguard in my ship.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:45 PM
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Are you talking about the anti-scuffing compound LW-16702? If so, no Phillips 15-50 does not have it. IIRC, most Lycomings don't need it. I know SI 1409c says "all", but I don't know of anyone adding it if they aren't directed to by an SB.
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:21 PM
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I'm thinking single weight for heat issues also. what is being used for O360's in the summer?

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Old 06-25-2013, 06:39 PM
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Nothing but Aeroshell 100W Plus and Camguard in my ship.
+1 on that combo.
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:04 PM
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I'm a huge believer in Mike Busch Savvy aviator where the only good additive is Cam Guard. Since the multi-grade's will drip off the Cam first after use. The cam guard will protect from non-use. I also switch from multi- grade to strait weight in the summer for more heat protection -YMMV-
More heat protection?

The multi-weight oil is thicker than the straight weight oil when they are both at elevated temperatures. (elevated temperatures = above the temperature where they both are rated) Ask any of the oil men when you are at AirVenture 2013 this year. Shell, Phillips, or Exxon will all tell you that at temperatures above the normal operating temperature, the multi-weight oil will be thicker than its straight weight counterpart.

According to Shell, the multi-weight oil will help the engine run cooler in high temperatures.
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:35 PM
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I went to the forum by the Cam Guard guy at Sun-N-Fun this year. He recommends Aeroshell 100W Plus, Exxon Elite or Phillips 20W-50, all with Cam Guard. He said absolutely no Aeroshell 15W-50 because it's semi synthetic and doesn't suspend the contaminates as well. Even for break-in, these oils are fine, only without Cam Guard.

I almost exclusively use the Phillips and use Cam Guard on non-brand-new engines.
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:36 PM
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The only problem with multi is when you need the most protection like take off in the winter the oil is real thin .
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