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06-25-2013, 01:37 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Saint Charles, Illinois
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A question about Phillips 15-50 oil
Does anyone know if it has the additive LYCOMING wants for their engines?
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06-25-2013, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Newnan, GA
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No. As far as I know only Exxon Elite 20-50, Aeroshell 15-50 Multigrade, Aeroshell 100W Plus, Aeroshell 80W Plus have it, or some approved form of the additive.
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06-25-2013, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 447
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 67MK Larry
Does anyone know if it has the additive LYCOMING wants for their engines?
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I'm a huge believer in Mike Busch Savvy aviator where the only good additive is Cam Guard. Since the multi-grade's will drip off the Cam first after use. The cam guard will protect from non-use. I also switch from multi- grade to strait weight in the summer for more heat protection -YMMV-
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06-25-2013, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Nothing but Aeroshell 100W Plus and Camguard in my ship. 
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06-25-2013, 05:45 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tampa, FL
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Are you talking about the anti-scuffing compound LW-16702? If so, no Phillips 15-50 does not have it. IIRC, most Lycomings don't need it. I know SI 1409c says "all", but I don't know of anyone adding it if they aren't directed to by an SB.
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06-25-2013, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 70
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oil
I'm thinking single weight for heat issues also. what is being used for O360's in the summer?
thanks,
Lee
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06-25-2013, 06:39 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
Posts: 5,668
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeofReiley
Nothing but Aeroshell 100W Plus and Camguard in my ship. 
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+1 on that combo.
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06-25-2013, 07:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
Posts: 3,503
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZtailwind
I'm a huge believer in Mike Busch Savvy aviator where the only good additive is Cam Guard. Since the multi-grade's will drip off the Cam first after use. The cam guard will protect from non-use. I also switch from multi- grade to strait weight in the summer for more heat protection -YMMV-
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More heat protection?
The multi-weight oil is thicker than the straight weight oil when they are both at elevated temperatures. (elevated temperatures = above the temperature where they both are rated) Ask any of the oil men when you are at AirVenture 2013 this year. Shell, Phillips, or Exxon will all tell you that at temperatures above the normal operating temperature, the multi-weight oil will be thicker than its straight weight counterpart.
According to Shell, the multi-weight oil will help the engine run cooler in high temperatures.
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NC25 RV-6 Flying
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Where is N157GS
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To most people, the sky is the limit.
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06-25-2013, 08:35 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: X35 - Ocala, FL
Posts: 3,679
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I went to the forum by the Cam Guard guy at Sun-N-Fun this year. He recommends Aeroshell 100W Plus, Exxon Elite or Phillips 20W-50, all with Cam Guard. He said absolutely no Aeroshell 15W-50 because it's semi synthetic and doesn't suspend the contaminates as well. Even for break-in, these oils are fine, only without Cam Guard.
I almost exclusively use the Phillips and use Cam Guard on non-brand-new engines.
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Jesse Saint
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06-25-2013, 08:36 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 846
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Oil
The only problem with multi is when you need the most protection like take off in the winter the oil is real thin .
Bob
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