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02-17-2021, 03:42 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Tampa (Wimauma actually)
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Taildragger tug
I'm looking for a powered tug for my RV-8. I usually just push my airplane in and out of the hangar but, recently, fuel has become available on my little strip. I don't like having to start after fueling to get back to the hangar. I'd like a little battery powered tug to help me cover the 100 yards between the fuel pit and the hangar. It's sod, with a little up slope from the fuel farm to my hangar. And, I'm not as young as I once was!
I obviously want something that will either attach to the tailwheel bolts or, better still, lift the tailwheel off the ground. Most of the commercial tugs I've seen are way overpriced and overpowered for my application and most can't handle a tailwheel airplane.
Ideas?
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02-17-2021, 04:53 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
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Retired lawnmower or 4-wheeler will pull your RV splendidly on the turf strip. Will also cost far less and faster than the dedicated tugs.
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02-17-2021, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 141
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Tug for your RV8
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02-17-2021, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
Posts: 9,901
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What Sam said. Fire up the welder...here's your towbar. I use this one with a golf cart or my pickup.
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02-17-2021, 07:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Retired lawnmower or 4-wheeler will pull your RV splendidly on the turf strip. Will also cost far less and faster than the dedicated tugs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanH
What Sam said. Fire up the welder...here's your towbar. I use this one with a golf cart or my pickup.
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Here is my tug and how I secure the "blue Cessna" towbar to it:
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02-18-2021, 01:12 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: LSGY
Posts: 3,686
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Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Here is my tug and how I secure the "blue Cessna" towbar to it:
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Sam, every time you post a picture of that tug, my heart starts palpitating - that is one cool looking machine!
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02-18-2021, 06:53 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 1,061
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Converted wheelbarrow?
I have been thinking also about a tug for my -7 and I have a PAW electric wheelbarrow that I wonder if that would be powerful enough to work if converted, it is a 24 volt motor with a 2 speed controller and geared axel. It has fwd and reverse also. My hangar ramp is slightly sloped and it can be a pain pulling the plane in. The PAW is not very expensive (around $500) and the batteries are standard 12v in series. It easily carries around 250 lbs up the hill to my back yard and will run most of the day doing that on a single charge.
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02-18-2021, 07:35 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
Posts: 9,901
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uk_figs
...I have a PAW electric wheelbarrow that I wonder if that would be powerful enough to work if converted, it is a 24 volt motor with a 2 speed controller and geared axel. It has fwd and reverse also
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That's a interesting drive axle. Should be easy to adapt into a custom tug frame of some sort. Wonder if it's possible to buy just the axle assembly and the hand control?
Two aspects to the capacity question, which we can call "load" and "pull". The axle will need to support a vertical load which is the sum of the tailwheel weight plus any downforce on the steering handle. The total is easily less than 200 lbs.
The ability to accelerate a 1100 lb mass from rest pretty much describes the pull question. I suspect it's not a mechanical problem because the gearbox is surely designed for load well in excess of what the motor can deliver. You can ease the motor load simply by installing wheels with a smaller diameter.
www.electricpaw.com/buyapawpaypal.html.
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02-18-2021, 07:44 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hannover, Germany
Posts: 163
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Exact same issue here…..
i decided not to buy/build a tug.
I fill her up right after landing. i practice my hot start technique and taxi her back to the hangar. For the last 15 yards i have a tow bar.
I figured that, exempt from draining the battery a bit, no harm is done as the engine is warm anyways.
Full tanks also minimize the chance to get water in the tanks from condensation.
Performance, even at max gross weight, is sufficient at my homebase.
Maybe this works for you too, until you have your tug.
Having a tug is still cool!!!
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02-18-2021, 07:59 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: 8I3
Posts: 3,673
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Old mowers do well as tugs. I put a ball on my zero-turn and that works well as a tug. Plus I still mow with it.
I also have an electric John Deere E-gator I bought dead for $300. New batteries $800, new controller $500, and welded up a hitch ball on a 12" extension bolted to the front attach point.
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