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Old 06-12-2013, 11:10 PM
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Default SPOT 3 tracker....anyone got a pirep?

So don't tell me I accidentally found out about this???? before it appeared on this forum?

looks like they almost got it right....2 minute tracking interval, and some other improvements. $161 at ACS.

...anyone else have some feedback? better deals, rebates etc.?


( looks like my procrastination worked...again....not buying a SPOT 2 yet!)

perhaps this should be moved to another forum - GPS? APRS???
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:19 PM
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First I've heard of the 3. Looks much easier than the previous versions
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:05 AM
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Default dang

wish I would have waited, and there isn't much about it on their own website.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:39 AM
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Thumbs up Definite thumbs up

Yes, we've been beta-testing the Spot III unit and it is a definite and major improvement. I, personally, haven't had much chance to use it yet but the short intervals, much more intuitive button-ology (at least than the original), and smaller size makes it a really nice unit. The shorter intervals make the data much more meaningful in the RV environment. It now live in Tsamsiyu (RV-3) and poor Tsam hasn't flown for a week or two due to our currently hectic lives so we don't have a current track log to show. I expect there will be a product report in Kitplanes some times soon.
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:31 AM
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I bought an original SPOT and found that the user interface made it nearly useless. When the SPOT Messenger with its Blutooth interface to the iphone came out I thought it would fix all of my woes. I bought one. The SPOT Messenger user interface was also bad, and the Blutooth pairing had to be reset everytime the unit was powered up. Promised firmware upgrades never fixed that issue, and shortly the unit quit accepting updates at all. Their technical support was next to useless.

In summary, I have found their hardware to be OK, but their software/user interface to be total junk to the point of making the hardware useless.

Maybe they have fixed it for the latest version, but I'm not going to give them the chance to fool me a third time. Your mileage may vary.

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Old 06-13-2013, 10:48 AM
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Default SPOT 3

I recently saw an ad for the SPOT 3 as well. I have the 2nd generation and use it every flight.

I like the idea of 2 minute intervals. 10 minutes is too long at RV speeds.

I saw mention of the 3 that said it has a "special feature" that shuts it off after a time sensing no motion, to save battery life. The thing is, when it stops moving is when I'd really like it to be pinging my location. It would probably get out several pings before shutting down (don't know what the delay is), but it made me think.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:54 AM
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Default ...will there be the usual free demo???

a year or two ago, they were handing out a couple hundred of these at Oshkosh, and a COPA convention here, for FREE.....of course, you had to sign up for the basic subscription, and tracking I think, so they made back their $150 instantly. ( remind you of a cel phone plan much?)

If they are tossing these around at OSH, please grab on for me, ok!?

another data point, with the new form factor, you STILL can't see the lights flashing if it's on your dash, as the LED's and button are all flush with the top surface.
(I think I'll try to glue a small wedge of clear plexi on top so some light is refracted toward me.)

any other ideas?
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:07 AM
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I just ordered mine a couple days ago. Of course it is backordered, so I'm waiting until the first week of July, according to Spruce's website.

Anyone want to buy a Spot 2 ?
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:10 PM
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Default ok Craig, you're our Pirep guy!

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I just ordered mine a couple days ago. Of course it is backordered, so I'm waiting until the first week of July, according to Spruce's website.

Anyone want to buy a Spot 2 ?
...yeah, so my Spot 1 is now worth.......zero??? too bad a guy couldn't just keep it in the glovebox of the car, for emergencies ONLY.....without the annual subscription (or have multiple devices on one plan!??!)

hello SPOT...are you listening????
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:35 PM
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I've been using the original Spot since the first time they handed them out at Oshkosh....maybe 5 years ago? It has a significant learning curve but I learned to use it effectively and we continue to pay for our subscription for the original unit that mostly resides in Mikey. Certainly not "junk" but it had room for lots of improvement.

Spot donated the second version for the RV-1 tour and it was better, but the several of the guys who hadn't used it before didn't get it "right" when they flew the plane. They were understandably focussing their learning elsewhere. There was still room for improvement.

The little time that I've had an opportunity to use or watch the track of the Spot 3, I think they have nailed it. Like all the trackers, there are pros and cons.

PROS:
  • It has the capacity for a useful interval of bings (yes, 10 minutes was frustrating for aircraft)

    It is very intuitive and doesn't require much of a learning curve

    It's very small and fits in the -3 more comfortably (I have it mounted with velcro on the top skin, right behind my head). (I'm not sure why one would want to watch the flashing light on the newer units. Set it before TO and let it go.

    No ham license (or creative interpretation of the FCC regs) needed

    I can easily pull it out for driving trips (the relatives like to track us) or hiking trips

    It turns off after awhile when stationary (I don't remember how long, but long enough).

    It seems to (and should) work everywhere in the air with no "dead" zones

    Compared to a PLB, it provides a track before you get in trouble and doesn't require an active action to turn it on when trouble happens

    It is certainly cheaper than a PLB

CONS
  • There is a subscription price for as long as you use it. So, you keep paying and paying.

    I think even the new one requires a new lithium battery once in awhile with no accomodation to have ship's power (if that's a bad thing).I replace my original Spot's battery about once a year or so and use is several times a week, on average

I'm sure advocates for the other tracking/emergency systems can come up with more cons.
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