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Other than the high turn out of RVs this year, the thrill of Oshkosh has faded quite a bit... empty sections in the main vendor hangars and far too many NON AVIATION vendors selling carnival crud coupled with all of the controversy around the direction of the organization made for a pretty disappointing and unrewarding experience this year.

Maybe it was the heat.

I am planning to take a break from 'AirVenture' and explore some other flying destinations next year.

I sure hope that Sun-N-Fun follows through with the promise to stop burning the grass, stop running people off of the parking areas, and TRIM the endless airshow down... it could easily become the premier event.

I need to find out more about triple tree ;)
What other great events might we all look to rally towards?
 
Not on my short list

I passed on attending this year. I thought better use of my time and money would be working on the plane instead. If my work load permits I hope to make LOE 12 instead. My only reason to attend would be to hang out with the RV crowd so I will try to do that through local RV gatherings instead once I get flying.
 
I need to find out more about triple tree ;)
What other great events might we all look to rally towards?

We had a group of RVs from central Florida fly up last year.
I plan on attending this year if I can my gear replaced in time. Grass roots and no commercialization. They really treated us very well. Friday night, it's cook your own steak on this giant grill. The local butcher sells his steaks right from the back of the truck.
I'm not sure it's worth the trek from WA. But it's a fun time.
 
This was my first trip to Osh. It won't be my last. I think Osh will always be what the people like us make it. I don't care about the politics, money, power, commercialism etc. I will go back for the planes and the people.

Please lets not turn this thing into a gloom and doom death spiral. There are tons of people out there just like me that have not been to Osh a bazillion times till they are sick of it. Lets not ruin it for all those that have yet to experience the magic.
 
This was my first trip to Osh. It won't be my last. I think Osh will always be what the people like us make it. I don't care about the politics, money, power, commercialism etc. I will go back for the planes and the people.

Please lets not turn this thing into a gloom and doom death spiral. There are tons of people out there just like me that have not been to Osh a bazillion times till they are sick of it. Lets not ruin it for all those that have yet to experience the magic.

Well said...

...after 5 trips to the big show...I see areas that I wish were different but overall it was a great time again this year. Deb and I do the stuff we want to do...spend our money where we think there is value and avoid or ignore the stuff that would bother us. While the empty vendor spaces was noticeable, it did not diminish my experience. I will agree that the mattress sales and pots and pan vendors are a bit much ,but again, we spent no time in their booths. If no one pays any attention to them, they will go away...

We are planning 2013 already...

Regards
 
I have to agree with Brantel. There are more distractions for sure, but some of them are fun. And there's nothing better than hanging out with my RV buddies. I'll be back next year.
 
2013 will be the first time in six years my work schedule will accommodate the OSH schedule. I have never been there and told my self that I wouldn't go unless I could get there early in the week. So, OSH 2013 it is!

I have flown into SnF six straight years and will continue to attend. I don't have any gripes about SnF. I can get there in under two hours and always enjoy the variety of planes and familiar faces, and making new friends. I try to make every year better than the last.

Triple tree is closer still but something always gets in the way and I have never been there. This year, weather permitting, I'll be there too.
 
Next year I will be back to represent the members at the business meeting again and to watch in the night time show in the cool air. (Which, by the way, was really awesome and slower paced.)

But if it wasn't for representing at the meeting, I would be spending my time and money doing something more rewarding with the family. Don't get me wrong, it's a great show and a great opportunity to be around airplanes. But it's just not rewarding enough to justify the time, effort, and money involved to get there.

Phil
 
This was my first trip to Osh. It won't be my last. I think Osh will always be what the people like us make it. I don't care about the politics, money, power, commercialism etc. I will go back for the planes and the people.

Please lets not turn this thing into a gloom and doom death spiral. There are tons of people out there just like me that have not been to Osh a bazillion times till they are sick of it. Lets not ruin it for all those that have yet to experience the magic.

Agree 100%. EAA is great. Oshkosh is incredible. I wish some things were different, but in the big picture, I can't see throwing in the towel on either one.
 
no towel throwing here...

Agree 100%. EAA is great. Oshkosh is incredible. I wish some things were different, but in the big picture, I can't see throwing in the towel on either one.

No towel throwing here... just a shift from an every year event to maybe every other year. Hopefully all of the organizational fuss works itself out, the economy picks up, the vendor halls fill, and more of the smaller aviation vendors can come back soon.
 
I'm with you Stephen. I have a limited flying budget and must schedule stuff appropriately. OSH wasn't on my list this year...but Vans 40th anniversary tribute changed my plans.

I have to remember its OUR plane, so I need to include Kris in more of the planning, we might try to fly to different stuff instead of Aviation destinations. less racing...:eek:...did I say that out loud.

Maybe Bahama's? AZ or SoCal to visit our dads. Park City for the granddaughters...stuff like that. Texas for Christmas with friends. oh the list could get long quickly.
 
I've really enjoyed Oshkosh all the more since completing my RV and flying into the show. I've been to six of the last seven events and enjoyed every one of them tremendously. There's something about the atmosphere and the people at this event that makes it special. It's always best, in my opinion, if you can spend at least a few days there so that you can relax, take in the venues you like at a leisurely pace, and just generally meander around with no particular agenda. You'll meet a lot of nice people doing the same thing.

This was the first time I stayed for the Saturday night show, and it is well worth it. You won't believe the showmanship and the special effects. I'm getting old and difficult to impress, but the night show impressed me.

I've been an EAA member for more than 30 years, been to the event a number of times. Quite frankly, the layout of the show is almost the same now generally as it was when I first attended in the 1970's. Sure the Fly Market has moved and there is just more of everything, but that's all part of being successful and growing with what the audience wants. I skip what I'm not interested in and savor what I like. There's plenty for all.

I plan on returning as often as I can. Hope to see you there.

Chris
 
Stephen;

Triple Tree is great. If you want to come that far then I have a spare bedroom at my house in Atlanta if you want to explore for a couple of days.:)


John Morgan
 
This was my first trip to Osh. It won't be my last. I think Osh will always be what the people like us make it. I don't care about the politics, money, power, commercialism etc. I will go back for the planes and the people.

Please lets not turn this thing into a gloom and doom death spiral. There are tons of people out there just like me that have not been to Osh a bazillion times till they are sick of it. Lets not ruin it for all those that have yet to experience the magic.


What he said!

I was my 1st year with my airplane, previous years were a mix of driving and flying other peoples airplanes. I thought this year was the best. Yes the crowds were down, yes it was hot, yes the chalets were obnoxious. But the people were awesome and that's mostly what I go for, seeing you guys!
 
Other than the high turn out of RVs this year, the thrill of Oshkosh has faded quite a bit... empty sections in the main vendor hangars and far too many NON AVIATION vendors selling carnival crud coupled with all of the controversy around the direction of the organization made for a pretty disappointing and unrewarding experience this year.

Maybe it was the heat.

I am planning to take a break from 'AirVenture' and explore some other flying destinations next year.

I sure hope that Sun-N-Fun follows through with the promise to stop burning the grass, stop running people off of the parking areas, and TRIM the endless airshow down... it could easily become the premier event.

I need to find out more about triple tree ;)
What other great events might we all look to rally towards?

Hey Stephen, it was good meeting and talking with you at OSH. I too share in the disappointed feel of OSH this year. Deb and I still had a good time as it's always fun to meet up with old friends and make new ones, and we surely did that this year. We won't go next year due to other trip plans... ;)

One of the things about any airshow is the repetitiveness of the event. I love airplanes and flying, but I also love skiing and SCUBA diving (yet I don't go to special shows about them). As for OSH this year, the highlight of the entire trip was going up in Ed "Turbo" Darcy's Robinson 44 helicopter and getting to fly it out of Pioneer airport. Many, many thanks to Turbo--Deb and I enjoyed the ride! :cool: Another one was winning a ride on the EAA Ford Trimotor (thanks to the Young Eagles Banquet raffle) and getting to fly with Jeff Skiles on the plane.

I think some of it boils down to breaking up your time between visits and finding other places to go and see. Deb and I agree that, of all our trips, the best one so far is still (shameless plug here) Twelve Days Eleven Nights. It involved a great variety of events, places, peeps, and flying. We are trying to cook up another trip like that for sometime in the near future.

Triple Tree looks like a great event, but I will unfortunately be in Gettysburg, PA working, otherwise we would be there! Same applies to LOE...we will miss it due to work commitments.

As for OSH, I'm sure we'll be back at some point in the future, but not for a few years. Too many other places to go and spend money. Besides, after the Thursday deluge that soaked our tent and being hot 'n' sticky, wet 'n' sticky, and just plain sticky...well, you get the idea. :( We'll probably get a hotel next time.

The great thing is that, thanks to this little plane we built in our garage called an RV, we have a super time travelin' machine that can take us virtually anywhere we want to go...and they're a lot of fun to fly on top of that!


Regards,
 
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Not heat, not politics, not rain, nothing will keep me away. My year revolves around Oshkosh. My favorite thing is bringing new people, and watching their reaction. I brought one each year for about ten years. Last year, five, and this year, sixteen. I was in heaven! It doesn't matter that I saw little of the flightline, none of the airshows, and only part of the commercial areas. I even forgot to buy a new belt from the leather guy. I loved it and lived it. AirVenture is people. If you chose not to come, that is of course up to you. You will be missing something very special, even with its faults. And you will diminish the magic, if only a little.

Bob
 
I've really enjoyed Oshkosh all the more since completing my RV and flying into the show. I've been to six of the last seven events and enjoyed every one of them tremendously. There's something about the atmosphere and the people at this event that makes it special. It's always best, in my opinion, if you can spend at least a few days there so that you can relax, take in the venues you like at a leisurely pace, and just generally meander around with no particular agenda. You'll meet a lot of nice people doing the same thing.

This was the first time I stayed for the Saturday night show, and it is well worth it. You won't believe the showmanship and the special effects. I'm getting old and difficult to impress, but the night show impressed me.

I've been an EAA member for more than 30 years, been to the event a number of times. Quite frankly, the layout of the show is almost the same now generally as it was when I first attended in the 1970's. Sure the Fly Market has moved and there is just more of everything, but that's all part of being successful and growing with what the audience wants. I skip what I'm not interested in and savor what I like. There's plenty for all.

I plan on returning as often as I can. Hope to see you there.

Chris

Well said, Chris!!

I don't scour VAF thoroughly so it's quite possible I missed the thread praising EAA for the time and resources they devoted to the homebuilt community at this year's show; *Opening Day devoted to our hero and homebuilt icon, Richard Vangrunsven, Sport Aviation cover story on Van and the homebuilt community, choreographed reception of the RV-1 into the EAA Museum (one of the largest in EAA history for such an event), and an outstanding recognition of Van on Tuesday at Theater in the Woods.

EAA partnered with Friends of the RV-1 during Tom Poberezney's presidency and Rod Hightower, Chad Jensen, Elissa Lines, Jeff Point, Rick Weiss, and many other Directors, employees, and volunteers have worked very hard to make this year's AirVenture an historic event for the homebuilt community. Personally, I think they far exceeded every expectation and deserve our community acknowledgment of a job well done! For those that aren't familiar with the cookie jar analogy, simply stated you need to put more in that you take out. I believe EAA has set an example and seeded our jar to more than half full. If we want facility improvements or other changes, we can't just complain and eat the cookies THEY put in... we need to contribute as well.

So, I'm on the record...
Thank You EAA... you really knocked this year's show out of the park for the homebuilt community!!!! Thank you... JOB WELL DONE!!
(2-sheets of cookies going in the oven now.)


[For me, the most notable change in the grounds is that the Exxon Exhibit (Bohannon's Flyin' Tiger) is replaced by the new FAA Tower. We were in that spot for seven years! /reb]
 
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I agree

Not heat, not politics, not rain, nothing will keep me away. My year revolves around Oshkosh. My favorite thing is bringing new people, and watching their reaction. I brought one each year for about ten years. Last year, five, and this year, sixteen. I was in heaven! It doesn't matter that I saw little of the flightline, none of the airshows, and only part of the commercial areas. I even forgot to buy a new belt from the leather guy. I loved it and lived it. AirVenture is people. If you chose not to come, that is of course up to you. You will be missing something very special, even with its faults. And you will diminish the magic, if only a little.

Bob

This was my 24th trip to Oshkosh, and for me, Oshkosh is like sex: the worst I've had was still pretty good. This wasn't the best year, but I still loved it. Life is way too short to miss the big show. I will go every year till I die.
 
The best part about Oshkosh for me is my young son shaking me awake in the tent every morning yelling "Dad, listen to the P-51s taking off!!" It reminds me of going to Oshkosh when I was little and what's really important: being around lots of cool airplanes.
 
Well, Oshkosh is my summer vacation. This was my 8th year in a row, 3rd flying in. Sure there is stuff that bothered me and it has been voiced here, but so what. I go to see the people and their planes. I loved waking up to the sounds of planes flying around. I thrive on the "Make it up" plan. I would just start walking until I found something interesting or I bumped into someone. That is Oshkosh to me. Meeting the people and talking about planes. I wont be able to go the next 2 years and i will miss it. Dont worry though... Airventure 2015: Here I come :cool::cool::cool:
 
Steven and others ...

Life is very short and you are a smart guy. I know you from racing. At least with the racing there is a technical and operational challenge but even that is something to walk away from when you've had the experience and find it lacking in appeal. If you are questioning why the product didn't measure up to the sizzle, well I think this is one of those times in life when we wish the snake hadn't talked us into eating that apple. If it is lacking in appeal for you, can you imagine how your wife feels? It has appeal to many, like golf, cooking and meditation.

What we liked most with our RV was travel to visit and explore new places and share the experience equally. Even as much as I have enjoyed racing I always enjoyed our trips together, totally by ourselves, best. Even the planning together was a great part of the experience that I will always remember. Always fun to get the new AAA TourBooks, charts, etc. to mine for points of interest in the area we were thinking about. We also enjoyed planning trips with other aviation families but that is something you can't just wish and make it so. We were in a flying club in southern California and one guy - Doug Bowles - started our fly-ins and it just emerged as a long running activity that was the high point in a good number of peoples lives. I still hear from those folks. Maybe some of your friends in Washington could get together and plan some trips.

Another activity that may appeal to you is joining the NAA and setting National and World Speed Records. Just pick two cities, that meet the distance requirements, register the attempt with the NAA and fly it. Bruce Hammer set a record a few years ago from coast to coast, I don't remember the cities.

As for me personally I don't expect to ever return to AirVenture.

Bob Axsom
 
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Vetterman Bad Lands

Stephen,
I am hopeful Mary and I can make it up to the Vetterman Bad Lands Fly-in Sept 6-9. Not sure how far that is for you but I am looking forward to it if I can swing it. I have never been in that part of the country. Maybe we will see you there.
 
Unsure if I will attend Oshkosh 2013 at this time unless something really big and compelling is happening. Will likely try for 2014... maybe some RV-14's will be finished on 2014 :)

I just had to attend this year due to the Vans 40th anniversary deal, and the fact that this was the first year for me to fly my very own RV there (prior two years in a borrowed RV-8), and 6th year in a row altogether.

I was the only RV'er from my home airport to attend this year, In the past, usually we've always had at least 6 or more airplanes full of folks from our airport. This year there were only 3 airplanes from F14 at Osh.

I am planning to attend the next Petit Jean that is an easy flight from here, and definitely LoE since Weatherford OK is practically in my own backyard as well.
 
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For me the RV1 celebration and the Team RV airshow made this one of the best AirVentures in a while. I think I have been 12 or 13 times and each year has been a great adventure. To see those 12 RVs giving a demonstration in the air that shows what is possible with homebuilt aircraft, was one of the most positive things to happen for in our industry in a long, long time.
And to top that off I found many good stories in Sport Aviation this month and it has been a quite a while since I have done more then flip through the pages!
 
I don't go to Oshkosh for me. I absolutely hate crowds, porta-potties, gang showers, camping in the rain, and public transportation. I also hate that I have to fly there in a rented plane. However, I love going to Oshkosh every year with this guy.

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Like most things, Oshkosh is what you make of it.
 
I kind of feel that way each year once I get home, but darn if that old feeling comes back every June. I tried to make it this year but my chemo treatments wouldn't allow it. I missed it, just the walking around and looking at all the different airplanes. There's nothing like it yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if the discontent grows into al alternative fly-in at some point.
 
If I'd passed on AirVenture, I would have missed out on meeting a bunch of cool people and having some fabulous discussions with them.

You know, at the end of the day, that's why I fly in the first place. AirVenture is not incompatible with that mission for me.

The rest of the stuff at Oshkosh? Trivial. And I'm getting too old to get too concerned about trivia.
 
I will be there! Less than a year to go.

What a great year Oshkosh was. Where else can you see that many P-51's and see them flying throughout the day. The number of RV's was amazing. There are always some very cool new products that I don't get to see in person any other time of the year. You can't even compare Oshkosh to Sun n Fun or any other aviation event. First timers this year were just blown away. Everyone always says, "you can't see it all even in a week."

I had a great time meeting many many new people this year, sharing a bottle of Bourbon with friends and flying.

There is nothing in the world like it. The International crowd seems to grow each year and all I hear from them is how this is the most amazing event they have attended. "You would never see anything like this in their country. Everyone is so nice."
I loved what the Steve Miller band said, something like "this is the smartest group of people we have ever played to..." They did a great job too.

Oshkosh for me is always one of the best trips of the year when it comes to relaxing and quality time with the family. Hawaii, Belize, Mexico....they are all good but just not as relaxing and not the quality time together. My 10 month old woke up between 5 and 6 every morning and we would leave the trailer and go for a walk. I met more people and loved every minute with her doing that.

I don't really care about the politics, never had, never will. I am on the board at my airport and my standard answer is, "what is best for aviation". I think there are some great people who manage the event and I will write a letter to Paul, Tom and Rod and thank them for a great week and lots of fun.
There may have been a few more open spots in the big hangars but that is OK. I expect more open spots next year as companies who are trying to get into the moving map, EFIS, headset, iPad software space are converging to one or two companies. There will be another rush in a few years around a new set of technology.

I did meet a couple of people that did not seem to be having as good as a time as we were. Maybe it was the heat or just not being fully prepared for Oshkosh. This was my 17th year there. We have optimized our trip and this year was better than last year and next year will be better yet. I think next year I may try to buy one more site and set up a 25' pool, that would be cool.

I will do a trip write-up later this weekend on a couple of trips we did in July but there were many highlights for me this year Oshkosh. It has changed from being about the show to being about my family, friends and flying. That night show was incredible, best fireworks ever! We were there 10 days, 9 nights and I was sad to go. Here are just a couple of pictures of our camp and highlights for the year, more to come later.
Can't wait for Oshkosh 2013 and hopefully everyone will be healthy and we will all be there again drinking a very old bottle of Bourbon, calling friends at midnight wishing they were here and walking at 6am with my daughter and flying friends and new builders around.

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Thank you Scott Schmidt, and others with a positive outlook! I know that Scott loves aviation, and his glass is always more than half full.

My wife & I have only been to Oshkosh once; but considering we like so many aspects of the show, including warbirds, homebuilts, classics, the float planes, whats new in electronics, etc............we'd love to go back.

L.Adamson
 
Osh was 2nd behind Disney in cost/day for our family

We did not see or feel the magic at either place. Many make fun of the country people in KY and WV for living in mobile homes, using out houses and hanging laundry out to dry. The HBC showers took me back to basic training. Try to explain to a 9 yr old boy that you must take your clothes off before showering and no you can't take your clean clothes in the shower with you. I will never take the whole family back! I will only go with another plane crazy person if night time temps are forecast <65F. The forums were very educational, but most information is also found online. We went to the seaplane base to cool off and get away from the heat, crowd, food delivery trucks, gators and scooters. We met several friendly VAF guys and gals, but most already had their friends picked. Reminded me of high school. We met some nice guys from Georgia that flew their Murphy Moose in. A big thanks to Kreth Sink and all in HBC for making our stay as enjoyable as possible, great coffee and corn roast. My son really enjoyed handing water out to new arrivals with Kreth.
 
The HBC showers took me back to basic training.

The new shower building in the N40 had privacy and plenty of hot water too (a little too hot for the hot days, and there's no cold/hot control... just one temperature). It was a fairly long walk though... due north of HBC, across what used to be called the Red Parking Lot which turned into extra HBC this year, thru gaps in the west ends of the picket fences, and out thru the Warbirds parking lot gate to the shower building. Yeah, the walk there and back was long, but it was worth it.
 
Other than the high turn out of RVs this year, the thrill of Oshkosh has faded quite a bit... empty sections in the main vendor hangars and far too many NON AVIATION vendors selling carnival crud coupled with all of the controversy around the direction of the organization made for a pretty disappointing and unrewarding experience this year.

Maybe it was the heat.

I am planning to take a break from 'AirVenture' and explore some other flying destinations next year.

I sure hope that Sun-N-Fun follows through with the promise to stop burning the grass, stop running people off of the parking areas, and TRIM the endless airshow down... it could easily become the premier event.

I need to find out more about triple tree ;)
What other great events might we all look to rally towards?

I know what it is to get tired of something that was once magnificent, and I can appreciate that the quality of this event may have become questionable but let me tell you as a South African sports aviator and airplane nut it has been my dream for as long as I have been alive to travel to Oshkosh and if I am ever lucky enough to make it happen I will have achieved the ultimate in my aviation and life ambitions....regardless of how bad the parking was, how few toilets there were or the quality of the vendor's goods.

This is why when I see Americans who live 'round the corner' and for whom a trip like this is as easy as packing the plane and arranging a few days away complaining that Osh isn't worth the effort anymore it saddens me deeply. You have no idea how blessed you are and how unattainable this 'boring event' is to some of us. I really, really hope to make it out there one day, but even then the privilege to pack the family into the airplane you built and fly the cross country and then to park her and your tent among the thousands of like-minded fellow builders who you were likely in contact with via the forums and blogs during your build but up til now had never met, is one I can not have unless I find a really big pot of gold so I can crate the RV-3 over there and fly from wherever I base her.

Oshkosh is a privilege like no other, it is the type of gathering and event that folk dream of their whole lives and may never get the honor of experiencing....just saying ;)
 
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Oshkosh 2013

Oshkosh 2013!!
Gotta go! Carol and I are planing to be there on Friday and not leave till the next Sunday. 10 days n nights.
We have worked the Avery Tool Booth the last 4 years. But not 2013. We plan to pick off a few bucket list things before OSH, or After. The Tides in the Bay Of Fundy, New Foundland, are a few on my list.
I have been attending OSH since 1980. First flew there in my C172 in 1984. I have 10 Show Plane Mugs. Flown 4 of the 8 airplanes I built into the big show.
Love seeing old and new friends, that is the best!
Oshkosh and aviation are the spice of life. I have missed a few years but plan to keep going as long as possable.
 
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For me OSH has become all about the people....seeing old friends and making new ones.

I'd like to apologize to all those who made a point to say hello when circumstances may not have allowed the time I would have liked to spend with you. The Social in particular was a blur. Let's try again at the very first chance, please.....2013 OSH is good, or Petit Jean next month, or whenever.

BTW, unless I'm sick, crippled, or broke there will an OSH RV Social in 2013, most likely at an independent location so we can host ourselves as we wanted to do in 2012. However, what I'd really like to see is the long-promised construction of a gazebo/shower house in HBC, a place where folks can go to meet new and old friends every evening.
 
I don't go to Oshkosh for me. I absolutely hate crowds, porta-potties, gang showers, camping in the rain, and public transportation. I also hate that I have to fly there in a rented plane. However, I love going to Oshkosh every year with this guy.

Bingo. And they're not around for very long, I can assure you.

I enjoyed Oshkosh more this year than at anytime since the kids grew up and stopped going, probably because of doing the radio show and meeting so many people.

That said, a lot of the attraction for me at Oshkosh disappeared this year and it wasn't EAA's fault. I go to meet up with old friends and this year my two best Oshkosh buds were feuding with each other, and I felt caught in the middle and I realized what it must be like for children of divorce. That was no fun at all and probably is the main reason why next year I'll fly my own plane in, stay for the Monday night get-together, and then probably leave on Tuesday.
 
Even with this past year being the Vans 40th and getting to finally fly an RV that I actually own, instead of a borrowed friend's RV... and my first time camping on the field... there was definitely something "off" about Oshkosh 2012.
Very few people from my local aviation community attended, only two other planes, and they flew the trip on their own independent schedules when there used to be always several planeloads of folks from here who always made such a big deal about flying up as a group and staying together in a big weeklong social event... I was pretty much alone this year.

I've been attending each year since 2007 and on a grade scale of A thru F, I'd give my score of each year of my experience as follows:

2007 - "A+ with extra points" because it was my first Oshkosh ever, and it was mind blowing.

2008 - Still a solid "A". The newness hadn't yet worn off for me, and got to see things that were impossible to take all in on the first time there.

2009 - Probably a "B" due to the group I was with having some mechanical problems with their plane, and missing out a half day to help fix their plane, and also leaving early. Only got to spend a total of two days attending Airventure itself.

2010 - At least an "A-", would've been a solid A since it was the first year I got to fly a brand new RV by myself from Texas to Osh, and land it smoothly there on 27 without even the slightest bounce :p. The rains of "Sloshkosh" put a damper on some of the enjoyment, and the group I was hanging out with also decided to leave a day early again.

2011 - Back to a solid "A". Most of the group I usually travelled with stayed home that year, but I got to fly the RV-8 again, and got to participate in formation flying up there and back home, and even a 5-ship group of RVs into and out of KOSH two days in a row (we were called the "Clown Flight"). The flying part of that trip was the most fun I'd ever had flying in a group.

2012 - Gotta give this one a "C-". I was the sole RV from my field there, solo flight alone all the way there and back home too, no other planes in a loose gaggle or even to talk to over the radio with each other, none of my usual group of our local aviation community folks flying alongside with me. The heat was almost as bad as staying in Texas. The EAA cut down the "Eby Tree" in the VIP parking behind the Forums where our group always ate lunch and socialized in the afternoons during the air shows for the past 5 years :( The whole atmosphere of the event was just down for me. It felt like it was the closeout of a dying era and I was the last one left... turn off the lights and lock the door on your way out kind-of-feeling. On a brighter note.... on the trip back home, somewhere just southwest of Portage after I topped off my fuel tanks and took off for the long flight back home, It suddenly clicked that I had finally "become one with the RV-6" and it finally felt like "home" for me... up to that point, I'd had issues with smoothly flying the thing. I was perfectly at home with the RV-8, it felt like a natural extension of my own body... and of course, my old Cherokee felt that way too, but something about the RV-6 had always intimidated me somewhat, and I often felt like I was "behind the plane" too much.

2013 - I'd certainly like to go, but it's still way too early for me to tell. If we can get our large local aviation group going again after their two-year-in-a-row hiatus, I'll definitely go again, but I just don't want to do it completely solo again. Without the big social event happening like it used to in the past for me, it's just not the same.
 
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Oshkosh is a place that I will most likely never attend. I gave up on the EAA decades ago...long before the current complaints.

If you want a nice fly-in, LOE was always great when it was in Las Cruces. I have not made it to the Weatherford event.

Petit Jean sounds wonderful.

The Vetterman event also sounds great.

These are just a few of the events that you can attend that are far more enjoyable than I envision Oshkosh to be. You have choices. I prefer the smaller venues.

If you want a awesome trip, get in touch with Rosie or Jim Baker and go on one of their Caribbean adventures.
 
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A+ for me

Well this year was great for me, but it was my RV-8's first trip and a chance for me to get there in style vs driving 10 hours.

I loved all of the RV-buzz, it sorta felt like it was our own personal fly-in.

As mentioned, it wasn't about the vendors or the show or even the airplanes as much as it was about the people for me. YMMV.
 
I cannot wrap my head around the concept of not attending Oshkosh, and am surprised that there are people with this opinion. This was my 24th trip, and it was wonderful. It's the highlight of my year. Sure, some years are more memorable than others, but the worst was still terrific.

Jerre
 
For me OSH has become all about the people....seeing old friends and making new ones.

I'd like to apologize to all those who made a point to say hello when circumstances may not have allowed the time I would have liked to spend with you. The Social in particular was a blur. Let's try again at the very first chance, please.....2013 OSH is good, or Petit Jean next month, or whenever.

BTW, unless I'm sick, crippled, or broke there will an OSH RV Social in 2013, most likely at an independent location so we can host ourselves as we wanted to do in 2012. However, what I'd really like to see is the long-promised construction of a gazebo/shower house in HBC, a place where folks can go to meet new and old friends every evening.

Now I have to go too cause you will surely run out of ice! :):)
 
Wouldn't miss it for the world...

My family and I flew home to Minneapolis from a week in Bar Harbor, ME on early Saturday AM (12:30) on the last weekend of Oshkosh. My 7 and 4 year old boys got up with me 4 hours later, loaded the van and drove 5 hours to Oshkosh. We were worn out but we had a blast. I wouldn't miss it for anything. Sure there are a lot of politics going on right now, but Oshkosh is still about flying and its a place full of pilots and aviation enthusiasts. Where else would I rather be?
 
Personal choice is, well personal. I had to leave this year from OSH the day it opened. I left at 8:15 am. I hated that. But my new home had been flooded by the builder and my wife was a little overwhelmed. Long flight home. I will be back next year. For the people and that one or two things that I have never seen in my life, or, a night in the woods that I will remember for a lifetime when the Apollo astronauts spoke. I stayed after and so did they and just told stories to about 30 of us. Cannot find that anywhere else.
 
The worst part about Oshkosh this year was the yellow jacket (bees) problem at Ardy and Ed's, which made it impossible to eat there.

The best part about Oshkosh, however, is still Ardy and Ed's.
 
No targets!

I don't get to go every year; I hadn't been since 2008. My second son who lives in Ohio wanted to go but because he was on a different work schedule he wanted to drive up while I flew. We camped together in the North 40. The new bath house is really nice except the hot water is too HOT.
The interesting thing that I noticed is that I flew nearly 1200 nm round trip, and except for the first 10 miles departing Oshkosh, I did not see another aircraft in the air between Alabama and Oshkosh. And I was looking! And I have 20/20 vision.
I've been to Oshkosh and to Sun'n Fun several times each, and I can't remember another time that I didn't see another aircraft of any kind- GA, Commercial, Military- nothing both going and returning! I thought that was just strange.
 
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If a table was open we used one. If not, we ate sitting on the back of the car. Don't remember any yellow jackets. The girls on skates didn't seem bothered either.
 
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