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05-24-2018, 08:36 PM
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Eugene
Posts: 37
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Don't make this mistake installing the wheel fairings!
Page 36A-06. When installing the left outboard main gear fairing bracket (U-00002 and U-00004) with the long AN3-40A bolts, I broke off both bolts in the holes in the axle. Sounds pretty dumb but here's how it happened.
As I screwed the bolts in they became tight with about 1/8" left to go. I was puzzled so I turned the small 1/4" socket wrench carefully and then, snap, the bolt broke off. I thought I had a bad bolt so I carefully tightened the other bolt and it snapped off as well.
I tried to drill out the bolt shanks but was unsuccessful. I believe the problem is that the holes in the end of the axle were not tapped deep enough for the bolt. I bought a 10-32 tap and tapped the other axle until the tap reached the bottom and the AN3 bolts worked perfectly.
I spoke with Van's a couple time and they will send me replacement bolts but for the axle, they referred me to Matco. Matco asked me to send the axle back and I don't know if they will charge be for a replacement ($71 + shipping on their website).
So this is an easy mistake to make that could cost you $100 and a couple weeks to fix so the moral of the story is: if your bolt gets tight before it should, STOP! Go buy the correct tap and tap it deeper. That solution would have cost me $5.77 and an hour of time.
Just because it's a machined part doesn't mean it's right.
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05-25-2018, 04:41 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Gloversville, NY
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I have had two of those bolts break off. Once when I hit a ridge of ice pushing into my hangar, the other time one was just broken when I took the wheel pants off. Both times I was able to extract the broken bolts using a drill press, left hand drill, and an easy-out. Has to be done carefully but it can be done. And, an excuse to buy a few more tools!
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05-25-2018, 10:02 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: ft MYERS, FL Based @KPGD
Posts: 35
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Wheel pant bolts
Did same thing, dosent appear to be enough threading in axel. Next time I was careful and used a good amount of blue thread lock. Good Luck
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05-25-2018, 07:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 3,253
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I have had fairings on my plane since it was licensed in 2012, and they look great, but it?s a pain to check pressure or add air, so I plan on removing them at next oil change when I usually go through the rigamaroll of topping off tire pressure.
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05-28-2018, 06:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Chiloquin OR
Posts: 94
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Bolt Lenght
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Originally Posted by benfra
Did same thing, dosent appear to be enough threading in axel. Next time I was careful and used a good amount of blue thread lock. Good Luck
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Its very easy to bottom a bolt out, but to over tighten it and have it break is another thing. There are torque limits for a reason, just because its not all the way down, item its supposed to hold and has a space under the head does not mean keep wrenching. It means, find out why the bolt is not going to tighten against the item. Real easy take a wire and use it to find out what the problem is. Use it to measure from the surface of the item to the bottom of the hole. Happens quite often that the bolt is too long or hole needs to be threaded more or drilled deeper. More than just a little force was exerted to break it off.
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05-29-2018, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sidney, BC, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EXflyer
Real easy take a wire and use it to find out what the problem is. Use it to measure from the surface of the item to the bottom of the hole. Happens quite often that the bolt is too long or hole needs to be threaded more or drilled deeper.
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A wire can easily check for hole depth, but it can't easily confirm thread depth.
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05-29-2018, 08:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Chiloquin OR
Posts: 94
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowflake
A wire can easily check for hole depth, but it can't easily confirm thread depth.
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Didn't say it could but by running bolt in by hand will tell how far threads go. Then check with a tap will confirm it as to take out a small piece of material can be done with little force. That will tell if there is any hole left to tap other wise one could do damage by forcing a tape against the bottom of the hole. Been there done it many times that way during my years as a heavy duty mechanic.
And will add another thing that many don't do, blow the hole out with air as some times they are not cleaned after drilling and tapping, just an FYI for those who have never done this.
Last edited by EXflyer : 05-29-2018 at 08:15 AM.
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