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Old 01-02-2021, 06:04 PM
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Id really like to see something that competes with the sling tsi. Id buy one right now.
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Old 01-02-2021, 06:22 PM
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The GlaStar Sportsman 2+2 has a lot going for it except it's expensive and slow, at least, compared to an RV.
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:45 PM
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What would be really cool is a 6-place plane with four removable seats, like a cross between an RV-10 and a Piper Saratoga. Imagine a 1000lb cargo capacity in a two-seater.... I doubt I'll ever see this happen for pretty obvious reasons but I don't think you can deny it would be very cool.

Kit price: $205,000
Time to build: 3300 hours

(Note the above numbers are based on my best guess, not anything from Van's )
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:55 PM
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Jay, you described the Cyclone 180, a Cessna 180 clone kit from the 1990s. They are no longer available. I suppose there's not a great demand for them relatively speaking, any more than there was for the Tundra. Although there's a lot of expressed desire for a Cub-C180 sort of airplane in these pages, I think Van's knows their market niche.

A while ago I described how a moderately changed RV-9 would fill the bush plane gap and still get somewhat near the current speeds. I still think that something like that would be a heck of a plane.

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Old 03-25-2021, 06:05 PM
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What would be really cool is a 6-place plane with four removable seats, like a cross between an RV-10 and a Piper Saratoga. Imagine a 1000lb cargo capacity in a two-seater.... I doubt I'll ever see this happen for pretty obvious reasons but I don't think you can deny it would be very cool.

Kit price: $205,000
Time to build: 3300 hours

(Note the above numbers are based on my best guess, not anything from Van's )


Sounds like the new Bearhawk 5..............
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Old 03-25-2021, 06:45 PM
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Sounds like the new Bearhawk 5..............
I was looking hard at the Bearhawk 5 for more useful load but my enthusiasm has waned after looking in-person at its little brother the Bearhawk 4-place. They are fantastic aircraft but are cramped compared to my RV-10 and way more difficult to get in and out of. Plus Id prefer a tricycle gear configuration which they dont offer.

If Vans came out with something 182/206ish Id sell my 10 in a heartbeat.
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Old 03-25-2021, 06:59 PM
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The Bearhawk 5 is a bit wider the the 4-place Bearhawk.
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Old 03-25-2021, 07:10 PM
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The Bearhawk 5 is a bit wider the the 4-place Bearhawk.
I know—2 inches at the pilot seat. The cabin is 14 inches longer and the fuse is 24” longer overall than the 4-place. With a GW of 3000 a builder can see between 1400 to 1500 lbs useful loads without too much trouble. But there is only one flying (the prototype) and I won’t be able to see it until Osh. My concern is that even though it’s bigger than the 4-place the dimensions for the rear seats aren’t much different and in the 4-place the rear seats, especially, the headroom is tight. It’s also a bit of a kabuki dance to get in and out of the front seats and the rear seats are worse yet because of the deck angle due to the fact it’s a taildragger.
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Old 03-25-2021, 07:17 PM
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The GlaStar Sportsman 2+2 has a lot going for it except it's expensive and slow, at least, compared to an RV.
I blow right by my neighbors Glastar with his 360 and I am off the ground faster also.
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Old 03-25-2021, 07:37 PM
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So lets ask a basic question:
IS Vans coming out with a new model?
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