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Old 01-26-2022, 10:31 AM
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I have a Class III medical, but it comes with a Special Issuance for a minor issue that can easily be cleared with medication adjustment. I'd just as soon switch to Basic Med, but I'm not quite clear on what to do with the Special Issuance. Do I need to clear that up first? The FAA wants the Special Issuance issue (thyroid) addressed by my regular doctor every two years, so that and the class III renewal dates happen at the same time. Do I need to see my AME to get the SI lifted before going to my regular doctor for the Basic Med? Or do I just go ahead with the Class III and then switch to Basic Med after the SI is lifted (assuming it is)? Or are the SI and Basic Med two separate issues (can I get Basic Med with SI in place)?

(I'd ask my AME, but he's out of town for awhile).
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:40 AM
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Not an expert but my understanding is if the SI requires action from you before the 3rd class expires, you have to do that. Any SI conditions must be met until the 3rd class expires, otherwise the 3rd class becomes invalid and you can't go basicmed. But if all conditions are met you can let the Class III expire and switch to basicmed at that time.
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Old 01-26-2022, 11:19 AM
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https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certifi...sicmed_faq.pdf

I could be wrong, but I don't think you need to do a thing...you could go straight to BasicMed now. Others correct me if I'm wrong...

https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/...r/ac_68-1a.pdf

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General Requirements. In accordance with § 61.23(c)(3)(i)(B), persons operating under
BasicMed must hold or have held a valid medical certificate issued under part 67 at any
point after July 14, 2006. This medical may have been a first, second, or third-class
medical certificate, including any FAA medical certificate issued under an authorization
for special issuance (“special issuance medical certificate”).
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Old 01-26-2022, 12:18 PM
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https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certifi...sicmed_faq.pdf

I could be wrong, but I don't think you need to do a thing...you could go straight to BasicMed now. Others correct me if I'm wrong...

https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/...r/ac_68-1a.pdf
I think it boils down to whether the conditions of the SI have been met -- if they haven't then the Class III isn't valid until they are. If the Class III isn't valid then you can't switch until it is. The easiest solution then is to comply with the SI so that the Class III is valid and then switch.
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Hmmm...there's a whole section in the AC on *specific* conditions which require an SI, and thyroid isn't in there.

Also, if he had *any* medical certificate at any point after 2006, he can go straight to BasicMed now. As long as his current medical is not revoked or suspended, I see no reason why he can't now get BasicMed.
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I think it boils down to whether the conditions of the SI have been met -- if they haven't then the Class III isn't valid until they are. If the Class III isn't valid then you can't switch until it is. The easiest solution then is to comply with the SI so that the Class III is valid and then switch.
I'm so glad I don't have to deal with this sort of stuff...but...

Isn't a Medical with SI valid *when the SI is issued*? I have no idea, I never had one, but it is called a "special issuance", after all. I have trouble thinking that the FAA would issue something called an issuance on the premise that you intend to come into compliance with it at a later date, but heck...it's the FAA, who knows?

If that's true, and let's assume that he never had a medical before this one, then the moment the medical + SI is issued to him, he could go BasicMed.
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Default Class III vs basic med question

Basic med is separate from the FAA medical. There are only 3 conditions that must have a 3rd class or better and an SI to fly with and they are cardiac disease, loss of consciousness ( usually meaning neurological disease like stroke or seizure) and psychosis. If you don’t have any of those then it is between you and your own doctor to decide if you are able to fly with a physical every 4 years. Of course you must have a valid drivers license and meet any conditions required on it ( like wearing glasses), and complete the online test every 2 years. As stated above, you could get on Basic med now and just let the SI and 3rd class expire whenever. You just don’t reapply for a 3rd class as then you would have to meet the same requirements for the SI as before. For example, if you have low thyroid issues you have to have a blood test showing normal thyroid levels on medication to meet the SI requirements or you wouldn’t pass until they were back to normal. Of course it would be prudent to follow those same guidelines under basic med but it is up to you as opposed to the FAA to monitor it.

As an aside if you wanted to get back on 3rd class after the SI has expired, low thyroid treatment is a Condition your AME Can Issue (CACI) and you wouldn’t have to wait for another SI to be issued by the FAA.

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Concur. What I was trying to say is exactly that— once you have the SI then you’re good to go. However, there’s no benefit to doing all the basic med stuff while the Class III is still valid. Waiting for it to expire is the most cost effective option in terms of time and money.
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I have a class 1 and Basic med in the background. Just get basic med now and let the third class lapse. Done!
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I have a class 1 and Basic med in the background. Just get basic med now and let the third class lapse. Done!
Yep. And remember, if you *ever* have a medical revoked or denied, you can't get BasicMed. So to the OP...stop poking the bear. You have a medical, now get BasicMed and never look back. Don't go asking your AME if he has to "lift" the SI (whatever that means), or if you have to get another Class III, or anything else.

You qualify for BasicMed...go to your PCP and have them fill out the form, do the on-line class, and say goodbye to your AME for good.
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