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01-01-2021, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HAL Pilot
How large of a desiccant bottle does it take? If a metal one was attached to an exhaust pipe it would cook dry on every flight.
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it probably would not take much but in the interest of total performance, do you really want to carry around a dense drying agent that would probably get turned to dust with vibration from an exhaust? I am thinking a total weight of less than .25 lb. some folks could justify that weight but probably not much more.
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01-01-2021, 04:58 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
Posts: 7,008
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On board is a great idea!!!
. . . Even if it is powered by shore power.
The Black Max uses a Peltier device. I tested one (peltier device, not Black Max) and it produced a 21F dew point, pretty dang good for room temperature. Note the Max has a defrost and condensate clear cycle.
My calculations indicate that 2.5 l/ min will replace the crankcase air in 30 min. A separate battery with a timer could do this.
The question not answered yet is whether there is any liquid in the crankcase that might evaporate and recharge the crankcase air. In spite of a handful of tests, the humidity meter readings are not consistent - - meaning I can not make sense of them.
I currently use a 12VDC mattress inflator to purge the engine for 5 min the pump in desiccated air for 60 min. It was getting complicated to manage a peltier device with a control so went back to the silica gel. The purge and timer process eliminated the need for closed loop and the desiccant last a long time (between regenerations) this way.
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Last edited by BillL : 03-16-2023 at 09:04 AM.
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01-01-2021, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
Posts: 7,008
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Crude test of Peltier
Here is a page from my development workbook.
Conclusions:
-Dew Point relative to ambient temps is what is important.
-There is 2.5X more water in the crankcase than running a dryer for 2 hours at high ambient humidity
-A peliter device must have some way to defrost and purge condensate or it will plug.
Many Peltier devices look alike - be sure you get a good one. This one was inspected with a borescope and the internal passages were too restrictive even for 2 liters/hr flow.

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Last edited by BillL : 01-01-2021 at 05:24 PM.
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01-01-2021, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: central Minnesota
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I made one for about $50. The expensive part was the dessicant, I bought 15lbs and rotate. When the one half turns orange, I switch for the other half blue stuff and take the orange stuff back home to turn it blue again in the oven. 7.5 lbs goes for about a month, maybe 6 weeks. The aquarium pump was cheap. After I put the plane back in the hangar, I just stopper the outflow air tube in the dipstick tube, and the return tube slip overs the Anti-Splat separator (crankcase vent) outflow. Takes about 90 seconds and avoids having yet one more thing mounted under the cowl.
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08-25-2022, 01:45 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Newport News, Va
Posts: 514
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2065 quick and gratis repair
Quick and gratis repair so excellent service from Aircraft Components Inc.
My Black Max 2065 failed after 2-1/2 years of continuous use. Fellow on the phone said temperature sensor failed as is common, they normally expect a four year life of that part.
Cost me $21 to ship it on Aug 17, delivered Aug 20, repaired Aug 25, will ship back to me Aug 26.
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03-16-2023, 08:55 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Meridian ID, Aspen CO, Okemos MI
Posts: 3,348
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Black Max engine dehydrator
With all the talk lately I have been hearing about corrosion I figured I should learn more about it. Im in a humid in Michigan area but try to fly at east once a week.
My oil temp never gets high enough to boil out all the moisture so I compensate by changing oil around 20 -25 hours. So far all reports from Blackstone have come back fine.
I always pre-heat my engine and with my AntiSplat oil plug heater and a 5" dox heater ducted into my plenum inlet, I can get the oil and carb to 90 + in about 3 hours starting at 10 degrees F.
I open the dipstick after landing. Im not sure if that is good or makes things worse.
My questions:
1. Should I leave the dipstick open?
2. Should I plug up the exhaust pipes and close the dipstick?
3. I prefer a solution that I just hook up after a flight and forget about it until I fly again without having to replace pellets. Is the Black Max engine dehydrator the easiest and a good solution?
There is an EAA webinar by Mike Bush saying 40% or less humidity is the goal. I am leaning to the Black Max. Any other suggestions that do not require replacing the silica pellets? Thanks
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03-16-2023, 10:36 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 337
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few comments
- somewhere in the info on the dehydrator is a comment that it is designed for a “tight” engine,…. So, LEAVING the dipstick open is not a good idea
- I have been using the dehydrator for several years and have found on occasion that it got locked up in reset cycle. I put it on a timer to operate for 3 hours or so,… then a break for 1-2 hours then operate, and no longer have an issue
- after flying I open the dipstick immediately after shutdown, to allow natural ventilation ( and heat) to purge. There is not an air/oil separator installed. I also use a inflator pump at times
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