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Old 01-04-2018, 10:12 AM
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Gotcha. I think that answer makes sense, to the degree that any of it can. And it's good news, in the sense that I don't need to change my presentation, and now I can say why that statement is true with some degree of confidence.
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Old 01-04-2018, 04:17 PM
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I would think it falls under §21.181 “Duration”. Here §21.181 (3)(i) invalidates the airworthiness of an aircraft in the LSA category, if it no longer meets the definition of a light-sport aircraft. But this section is specific to Specials, not Experimental. The E-LSAs fall in this same section under §21.181 (4) with all the other experimental certificates. But “the failure to meet the LSA definition” is not included here.
I’m sure the experts are correct, maybe they can point us to the reg.
All Experimental and Light-Sport aircraft are issued a "SPECIAL" airworthiness certificate.

As has already been pointed out the 8130-7, SPECIAL AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE, in block A states: "PURPOSE- OPERATING LIGHT-SPORT AIRCRAFT".
If the aircraft has been modified to longer meet the definition of "Light-Sport Aircraft" it no longer conforms to this "Purpose". And therefore the A/W certificate is invalid
Not sure how much proof you need.
Of course it depends on whether or not it is primed!
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Old 01-04-2018, 04:22 PM
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Of course it depends on whether or not it is primed!
Only because you can't put the third wheel in the back.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:53 PM
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Nice chart, Carl! It all seems so simple when you see it organized like that. Proof that a picture is worth a thousand words!
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Old 01-05-2018, 08:18 PM
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Thanks, but I didn?t create it. It came from an FAA training course, IIRC.
Boy....there are a lot of FAA guys who need to be educated on this cart....and how their regs apply to the ?light sport category?!
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Old 10-26-2021, 06:52 PM
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Default VANS RV-9A RUNNING AIRMASTER PROPELLER

friends, I have my RV9A equipped with Lycoming O-320 / 160HP and Propeller constant speed AIRMASTER PROPELLER, it runs very well and especially in take off and climb I have a great performance,
RV-9A/O-320/AP533H/WWR68A. The best decision, I evaluated the MT PROPELLER, and I decided on AIRMASTER PROPELLER, and it did not disappoint me, I am very satisfied, very smooth and not noisy
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Old 10-28-2021, 06:36 PM
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Very cool that they got the model for the Lycoming's finished. Any idea on how much performance improved? I've read a bunch about the gains on a Rotax, but haven't heard anything about an O-320. Congrats!
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Old 11-03-2021, 08:49 AM
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Hi,
we bought a flying RV-12 (filled with issues...) and did also look into the prop as a potential upgrade. Overall, there are some examples flying and they seem to be quite happy with it. However, due to the limited max airspeed allowed for the frame, the value added (for us) by it did not reflect the high price for the conversion. If we were to build one in the first place, things may have looked differently though. In Germany, if the aircraft is registered as an Echo class, there isn't a problem coming with it.

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