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Old 02-22-2013, 06:44 PM
N427EF N427EF is offline
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Default RV-10 Down

Seems everyone on board survived in good shape.
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:50 PM
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I recognize Frank's name as a poster here on VAF. Glad they are all ok. I'm sure we'll get to hear some more details soon enough.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:34 PM
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Great news on all surviving cold weather and a delayed rescue.

Good work guys.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Geico266 View Post
Great news on all surviving cold weather and a delayed rescue.

Good work guys.
Glad they are OK.

The latitude and longitude coordinates given to us by the passengers proved to be incorrect,” Jaquish said. “For whatever reason, their GPS device wasn’t accurate, so it took DEC longer to find them.”

The full story behind this statement would be interesting...
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:18 PM
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Default Real Story

Lat and Long given to the 911 operator 4 times was 100% accurate. They failed on the communication to the SAR team. I can't say enough for the fortitude of the SAR team that hiked in to help us.

We are very upset with the cover up of the errors in the dispatch system. We will foia the 911 calls to clarify the truth. We spent 10 hours in single digit temperatures, which was worse than the plane crash. While we greatly appreciate the efforts of everyone that helped us, we do not appreciate their misrepresentation of the facts.

My RV-10 took a beating, yet the cabin protected us incredibly well. I am not in a position to post the details of the crash, as there were many factors yet to reconcile. The plane performed flawlessly and was not a factor in this accident.

Frank Dombroski
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:43 PM
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Glad to hear everyone made it out okay. Sorry to hear it was badly reported in the media.
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Old 02-23-2013, 05:52 AM
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Whew! Good news, Frank. Thankful that you guys made it out OK.

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Old 02-23-2013, 10:55 AM
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Default More info, pictures

More info in this article, with some amazing pictures. Hopefully a little more accurate?

Amazing job, pilot, passengers, airplane, and SAR. Really glad all are OK.
Bryan Douglass
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:58 AM
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Default Thankful for your safety!

I second Pierre's sentiments as well. It pains me to see any of our aircraft go down but I am so glad you guys had the fortitude to withstand the elements dispite the situation! Well done guys and so happy to hear you made it home safely! As a former emergency responder, I also share your disappointment with a dispatch system which failed to deliver the performance they should have. It sounds like some retraining should be in order for them soon...

Roger Pierce
Broken Arrow, OK
Old 02-23-2013, 01:06 PM
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Default Which GPS format does 911 expect?

According to Winchell, the coordinates given by the New Jersey men were in a format not typically used by environmental department search teams.
Aha! I'd be very interested in knowing more about this. It could save lives in the future. Granted, everyone should be able to convert formats, but if comms are scratchy or voices weak, it'd be an extra safety margin if sender and receiver were using the same format without having to figure it out from partial data received, for example. So which GPS format do the emergency folks expect? dd.ddddd or ddmmss or ddmm.mmmm or ????

By the way, kudos for crashing so gently, whatever the circumstances!
Shannon Miller
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