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CFII to CFII discussion
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Pilot135pd
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Is this stall in IMC?
Pilot135pd
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Exactly where I was going. I'm a CFII but didn't see why he was asking for one when what he needs is an experienced RV9 VFR pilot to do actual stalls in it.
Pilot135pd
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Yep. I would take up Greg on his offer. He owns one and has lots of experience in it. He also flies it in crappy weather so he can show you how it handles there too
Ed_Wischmeyer
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That's me, and I've done a bunch of low speed handling qualities evaluations. PM sent.
Slip Stall and Impossible Turn
Regarding benign stalling characteristics, I would concur.
I had a chance to do a few full slip turning stalls (outside rudder) and the RV-9 has a very distinct break in the stall, with an immediate recovery with just the slightest easing forward from the stick.
Additionally, we were able to practice the "Impossible Turn" with a simulated loss of motor at 400' AGL. We were able to bank 60 degrees and turn 45 degrees away. Followed by a turn reversal of 225 degrees back to the runway, all the while never getting less than 80 knots in the turn.
This was with 3/4 fuel and two occupants (135 lbs and 180 lbs). We actually were a little high on the turn back, but could have easily landed if needed.
The RV-9 wing is amazing.
Regarding benign stalling characteristics, I would concur.
I had a chance to do a few full slip turning stalls (outside rudder) and the RV-9 has a very distinct break in the stall, with an immediate recovery with just the slightest easing forward from the stick.
Additionally, we were able to practice the "Impossible Turn" with a simulated loss of motor at 400' AGL. We were able to bank 60 degrees and turn 45 degrees away. Followed by a turn reversal of 225 degrees back to the runway, all the while never getting less than 80 knots in the turn.
This was with 3/4 fuel and two occupants (135 lbs and 180 lbs). We actually were a little high on the turn back, but could have easily landed if needed.
The RV-9 wing is amazing.
Frank,
If that was 22C that you were exploring, all of what you describe I LONG ago fully explored in every config you can imagine, and probably some that you wouldn't think of, before I dared put the inexperienced pilot in it. Including the "impossible turn" (only in certain conditions). At least that particular airframe is a puppy dog in every way.
It kinda' laughs at you if it thinks you are trying to spin it!
If that was 22C that you were exploring, all of what you describe I LONG ago fully explored in every config you can imagine, and probably some that you wouldn't think of, before I dared put the inexperienced pilot in it. Including the "impossible turn" (only in certain conditions). At least that particular airframe is a puppy dog in every way.
It kinda' laughs at you if it thinks you are trying to spin it!
