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09-16-2023, 05:37 PM
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RV10 Grove versus Beringer Wheels and Brakes
 About to order an RV10 kit and wanted some input on the wheels and brakes. Any recommendations on which ones Grove or Beringer? What is the difference?
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09-16-2023, 06:14 PM
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I’m a big fan of Grove personally.
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09-16-2023, 07:07 PM
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We all like what we are using especially if it's served us well. Only human instinct. For me I like the tubeless aspect of Michelin tires on Beringer wheels. Plus, with Beringer they use Sens Air which allows me to monitor temps and pressures without physically checking. (Bluetooth) Only need to add air every 6 months. 425 hours on the mains and brake pads. Nose wheel looks like it will go 750 hrs +. Absolutely no shimmy. Results may vary.......
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09-16-2023, 07:58 PM
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Suggest you research the brake energy and torque ratings of the various choices and make your decision in an informed manner.
Run the numbers on an RTO at rotation speed at the maximum gross weight you plan to “certify” at and see which of the brake choices meet or exceed your needs.
I did and chose Matco. The Beringer ratings were acceptable too, but I couldn’t justify the cost delta versus Matco. The Beringers have some other benefits/features that might make them worthwhile to you.
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09-16-2023, 09:47 PM
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This^^^^
What Krea said…
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09-17-2023, 07:50 AM
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I’ve had Matco on my RV-10 for almost 2300 hours. Plenty of stopping power when needed. We’ve installed them on many other 10’s as well. The price is great, too.
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09-17-2023, 08:13 AM
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Meh. All the systems work—IMO you can’t go wrong with any of them. You’re not stopping a fully loaded 747. I’ve got Grove and they work just fine.
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09-17-2023, 08:26 AM
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I disagree
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Originally Posted by Auburntsts
Meh. All the systems work—IMO you can’t go wrong with any of them. You’re not stopping a fully loaded 747. I’ve got Grove and they work just fine.
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Funny you should say that - my first job out of college was with Boeing as a Flight Test Engineer working primarily with landing gear and brakes.
I think you might find that the stock brakes are marginal to potentially inadequate on a fully loaded RV-10 (especially with an increased gross weight above 2700 lbs) and even more so after a long taxi at a high density altitude airport.
It’s not hard to run the numbers. Matco even provides a brake energy calculator here - https://matcoals.com/technical-support/how-to-choose/
Try it out and then look up the specs on the brakes you are considering.
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09-17-2023, 09:02 AM
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Rv10 brakes
I’ve got grove on my 10.
700 hrs works perfect.
Great company.
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