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03-27-2023, 09:17 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Maitland, Florida (Orlando)
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RV-7 tail on an RV-6
What problems are involved in swapping out an old RV-6 HS and Elevators for an RV-7 HS and Elevators? They appear to match exactly except for the skin thickness
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03-27-2023, 09:19 AM
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Location: North Alabama
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Be very careful about shifting the CG aft, you may not have much margin now depending on which prop you are flying.
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03-27-2023, 11:08 AM
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Having built both models, IIRC the Horizontal is the same in the box but the Elevators have a longer counterweight arm by a little. The plans called for removing some material from the HS to accommodate the longer elevator CW Arm. The 7 Elevators were also 020 instead of 016 material.
Of course things could have changed some but doubtful and BTW it appears that there are some if not many 6's flying around with 7 tails.
Maybe they will chime in.
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03-27-2023, 12:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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Also consider using the -8 rudder instead of the -7 riveted rudder..
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03-27-2023, 02:09 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern California
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I have the 8 VS and rudder on my 6.
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03-27-2023, 06:34 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blaplante
I have the 8 VS and rudder on my 6.
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I have it on my 6A as well but I would regret having done it if it wasn’t for a heavy propeller installed.
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03-28-2023, 05:02 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Looks like you are talking about just the Horizontal stab and Elevators. If used together you should have no issues. The skins are a little thicker, but the counterweight design moves the weight more forward, so the total weight may not be much different. It is the vertical and rudder that has a decent weight penalty.
I have a -7 tail on my -6A, so this is first-hand experience. The -8/older -7 vert and rudder are ok (but a bit heavier) if you decide to swap those as well. The newer -7 (which is the -9) rudder is heavier still, so not the best choice.
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03-28-2023, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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-7 tail
I installed a new 7 tail on my -6....both vert and hori--with the -8 rudder.
I also went to electric trim over manual.
I like it, I do have the 0-360 and C/S prop.
One note.....original tail needed a rudder trim tab...new one does not.
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Bob Martin
RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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03-28-2023, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: torrance, ca
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Martin
..........original tail needed a rudder trim tab...new one does not.
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Did you change the incidence of the new vertical stab or did you set it up the same as the original -6 one? IIRC, the -6 was supposed to be rigged symmetrically side to side and the -7 has some amount of built-in offset to counteract P-factor.
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04-03-2023, 01:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hgerhardt
Did you change the incidence of the new vertical stab or did you set it up the same as the original -6 one? IIRC, the -6 was supposed to be rigged symmetrically side to side and the -7 has some amount of built-in offset to counteract P-factor.
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Sorry for delay....went to SNF.
I centered the VS as perfect as I knew how....so no offset.
I even built a custom empennage fairing so no feedback from fitting a factory one.
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Bob Martin
RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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