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Old 09-27-2021, 07:39 PM
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Default DPE for IFR Checkride

Looking to find a DPE that will conduct an IFR check ride in and EAB RV-6. A few local RV folks and myself are having a hard time with the locally known DPEs that are ok in EAB aircraft. Anywhere in CA, even Nevada would work.
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Old 09-27-2021, 08:04 PM
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I am not in California but am a CFI-I who recently trained a student in his RV-6 for his instrument rating in the KC area. The key was the personal relationship that the instructor has with the DPEs in the area. In addition to it being experimental, most of the RVs have some non-standard equipment (that is the way that we are) that need to be discussed with the DPE before the checkride. I called the DPE early on in the training and explained the situation and asked his advice on how to prepare the student. I think that if I had waited until the checkride that the advice or agreement to do the ride may have been different. There was a delay from scheduling and doing the checkride due to weather and the schedules of the DPE and student. If that happens, do not stop practicing! My student is happily flying all over the country now IFR.

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Old 09-27-2021, 10:17 PM
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Get hold of Jim Casper. Heís close to CCR (Concord), but will go anywhere. While I did my IFR in a 172, and now own an 7a, he flies a 6a out of a club in CCR. Heís worked with a fellow 14a owner. Superb CFII.
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Old 09-28-2021, 09:59 AM
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Get hold of Jim Casper. Heís close to CCR (Concord), but will go anywhere. While I did my IFR in a 172, and now own an 7a, he flies a 6a out of a club in CCR. Heís worked with a fellow 14a owner. Superb CFII.
His contact info is:
Seven zero seven 853 one four 14
ghost94590 at gmail dot com
Thank you very much! Just to confirm Jim is a DPE or a CFI that may help with locating a DPE?
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Old 09-28-2021, 10:02 AM
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I am not in California but am a CFI-I who recently trained a student in his RV-6 for his instrument rating in the KC area. The key was the personal relationship that the instructor has with the DPEs in the area. In addition to it being experimental, most of the RVs have some non-standard equipment (that is the way that we are) that need to be discussed with the DPE before the checkride. I called the DPE early on in the training and explained the situation and asked his advice on how to prepare the student. I think that if I had waited until the checkride that the advice or agreement to do the ride may have been different. There was a delay from scheduling and doing the checkride due to weather and the schedules of the DPE and student. If that happens, do not stop practicing! My student is happily flying all over the country now IFR.

Good luck.
John
Thank You John, I'm actually still a ways off from my checkride, but since I heard it was not easy to locate a DPE for EAB, I'm doing the legwork now. Interestingly enough I went through this when I wanted to get my PPL ride done in my light-sport. I called and email over 30 DPEs, they were not willing to test in my LSA, and the ones that would only had sportpilot test privileges. I ended up finding a great DPE in San Diego that was happy to test me. Similar story.
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Old 09-28-2021, 10:56 AM
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It's tough. I did it a few years ago in my -7, and half of the DPEs around the Bay Area wouldn't do experimental, the other half wouldn't do tailwheel. I did mine with Richard Batchelder out of CCR, not sure if he does experimentals still. If I were to do it again, I'd seriously consider renting a Cessna for a few hours.
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Old 09-28-2021, 11:11 AM
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There is currently a crazy shortage of DPEís in Northern CA. e.g., Ashley Snyder, DPE out of Lincoln, keeps her schedule on-line. Her first opening is in February. I recommend her as being fair, but Iím not sure if sheíll fly in an EAB. I think Rob Davids out of Calaveras did, but Iím not sure if heís still active.

To be fair to the DPEs, itís tough, especially for an instrument ride. Every EAB is a little different, they canít possibly be familiar with every set up. And then, thereís the safety aspect. We all think that OUR airplane is perfect, but the truth is that there are some out there that are in real need of maintenance/improvement etc. and the DPE is not really in the inspection business.
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Old 09-28-2021, 11:56 AM
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... and the DPE is not really in the inspection business.
Oh they are now. The FSDO (at least in Oakland) has directed the DPEs to be more 'mindful' of discrepancies with the planes coming in for checkrides. This has led to a high amount of refused checkrides and multiple visits by our FSDO over the last 6 months. My club has had checkride applicants refused a checkride for items like small dings (even though the same DPE has given MANY checkrides in the same plane with the same small dent for the last 3 years), a missing cowl screw on a 172 (because those never fall out) and even because 'the signature on your 40 year old airworthiness certificate is too faded'.

So then the student leaves... pissed off. The DPE is telling them the plane is unairworthy, telling the FSDO who then comes out and follows up on the .5" wide, non critical dent some FOD did to the leading edge of the horizontal stab. We now have to get our A&P crew to sign off on every single little thing.
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Old 09-28-2021, 12:08 PM
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Interesting to read this, and I'm not surprised at all. The reason that I'm building an airplane is that I live in the Central Valley and was appalled when I went rental shopping. The 'rating mills' are flying some serious rattle-buckets. I got lucky and found a club, but the experience was enough to push me over the edge and start putting together something of my own. The club was recently dissolved so back to flying nothing, or a rental 172 missing 40% the cowl screws and barely working comms.


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Oh they are now. The FSDO (at least in Oakland) has directed the DPEs to be more 'mindful' of discrepancies with the planes coming in for checkrides. This has led to a high amount of refused checkrides and multiple visits by our FSDO over the last 6 months. My club has had checkride applicants refused a checkride for items like small dings (even though the same DPE has given MANY checkrides in the same plane with the same small dent for the last 3 years), a missing cowl screw on a 172 (because those never fall out) and even because 'the signature on your 40 year old airworthiness certificate is too faded'.

So then the student leaves... pissed off. The DPE is telling them the plane is unairworthy, telling the FSDO who then comes out and follows up on the .5" wide, non critical dent some FOD did to the leading edge of the horizontal stab. We now have to get our A&P crew to sign off on every single little thing.
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Old 09-28-2021, 12:21 PM
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Richard Conte did my check ride in my RV-6 for my PPL. I believe he will do IFR as well. He is based out of McClellan (KMCC).
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