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07-19-2020, 07:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Cleveland Heights
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Hot Start with E-Mags?
I recently purchased an RV 7A. It has fueL injection, one conventional and one E-mag. The other day someone suggested I never use the tried-and-true hot-start method to start the plane; that it is harmful to the E-mag.
Thoughts?
Thanks, sle
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07-19-2020, 07:39 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Did he/she offer any reason or logic to back up his suggestion?
To harm it?!?!??!?!?
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07-19-2020, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ionia Michigan
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I have an E Mag and magneto on my RV6 with fuel injection. My hot starts I always start at idle cut off and the throttle open a little. This is the same way I started it with 2 mags.
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07-19-2020, 09:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Yorkshire, England
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Plus 1 on that.....
Starts perfectly, however......
If you have stopped for say 10 minutes, when you start again, there may be some stumbling and missing for a few minutes - just vapour in the lines as the Lycoming doesn't have a return loop system.
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07-19-2020, 10:11 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Collierville, TN (KFYE)
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Wouldn't it be logical to expect Emagair to note that a particular hot start technique is a problem? Yet they don't. Call Emagair and ask them. I would bet that your "source" at the airport also thinks LOP is a bad idea
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07-19-2020, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Schaumburg, IL
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Must research the source and use judgement in accepting advice like this. Many suggest that walking under a ladder will create adverse consequences.
I remember my transition training CFI adamantely suggesting that I prime my carb'ed engine by pumping the throttle. Most know that when this is done with the engine not spinning, it loads the FAB with raw fuel and creates a serious risk of engine fire if you get a backfire. While the CFI had no idea how an engine worked, he had heard this so many times that he assumed it had to be correct. How could it be wrong when every car produced before 1980 was started this way?
Larry
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07-19-2020, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Auburn, AL
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My technique
FWIW...
Lyc IO-360 M1B, one slick, one Pmag.
Hot start technique.....
Boost pump....ON
Throttle.........WIDE OPEN
Mixture..........FULL RICH (2-3 SECONDS)
Mixture..........ICO
Throttle.........CLOSED
Boost pump...OFF
Throttle.........1/2 OPEN
Starter...........ENGAGE
Mixture..........SLOWLY ADVANCE AS IT BEGINS FIRING
Throttle..........REDUCE TO IDLE
This works for me every single time. YMMV
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07-19-2020, 11:31 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Cleveland Heights
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Thnx Steve/All. Steve’s method sounds like the best path. The person who warned me against it had no maligned intent and is not, to the best of my knowledge, superstitious. Perhaps he is, like me, still trying to learn about non-cert aircraft’s idiosyncrasies.
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07-19-2020, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fredericksburg, TX
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Steve forgot to turn the mags on 
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07-19-2020, 05:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Yorkshire, England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyinga
Steve forgot to turn the mags on 
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Bwaaaahaaaaa
Did that only last week for real - soon started when I switched them on. Super cool though, I was still cranking
Old Man Hatton noticed though - Doh !!!!!
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