redbeardmark
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Has anyone purchased Van's new oil cooler vent/shutter? If so, any comments? Does the shutter door open/close on a cam? Is failure mode OPEN? Anyone have a photo?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
GB2 said:I have flown with one of these oil cooler shutters installed on my RV-4 since the first of AUG. this year. Flying here in North Carolina when the AGL air temperatures were in the 90s to close to 100 deg, there were no problems with oil temp. The 8.6 sq. in. of opening for cooling air is enough even on the hottest days. I installed the shutter between the oil cooler and the front bulkhead. This works for me. Photos upon request.
Because my O-320 engine experiences cooler than acceptable oil temperatures, even with a plate covering the back side of it, I ordered the new vent/shutter for my RV. It will be installed upon receiving it.redbeardmark said:Has anyone purchased Van's new oil cooler vent/shutter? If so, any comments? Does the shutter door open/close on a cam? Is failure mode OPEN? Anyone have a photo?
Thanks in advance.
redbeardmark said:Has anyone purchased Van's new oil cooler vent/shutter? If so, any comments?
Does the shutter door open/close on a cam?
Is failure mode OPEN? Anyone have a photo?
Thanks in advance.
Not necessarily.... The vent can be safety wired into any position easily enough and some builders may do just that and forgo installing a cable control to the cockpit. In that case the total weight gain is all of 4 oz. Leaving the Snickers bar in the FBO's vending machine would cancel out even that small amount.gmcjetpilot said:I like to keep it simple and light......With any device
like this you have the weight of the plate and cable to carry around all
the time....G
True Rick, but than why bother to have an adjustable baffle. You kind of made my point for me. There is no real need for in-flight or fast changes to the oil cooler flow. A simple block plate or tape is all that is needed, and you could make a change as fast with tape as you could cut the safety wire and tie a new one. How you hold it in a partial position? I don't know why you would want to. Most go all open (summer) or most blocked (winter). With a little "experimenting" most know what blocking plate is needed after their first session of winter flying. GRick6a said:Not necessarily.... The vent can be safety wired into any position easily enough and some builders may do just that and forgo installing a cable control to the cockpit. Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
From late fall to early spring, it would be quite handy for us northerners.gmcjetpilot said:I like to keep it simple and light. In the summer oil cooler wide open. In the winter (for Northerners), block it for the season (with a temporary plate), not hard to do. With any device like this you have the weight of the plate and cable to carry around all the time. I guess if you are flying from Canada to Southern Florida or Mexico in the winter it may be a nice thing to have. G
Vince, I can relate to your oil temp experience and agree with your reasoning.N819VK said:.......I could not get my oil temp where it should be so I added a butterfly control with a panel mounted push pull knob....I like it and can control my oil temp from 175-210 degrees on a 100 degree day all with the butterfly control......
RV7ator said:Not to argue with the desirability of achieving 180, but I'm not concerned if typical winter temps stabilized at something less. The oil in its circulation encounters engine parts way hotter than 180 that will boil off water, which BTW Betty Crocker says boils at lower temps at higher altitudes to boot. Adjustability would be nice, and I've considered this for future builds since we do travel from north to south. One thing I would keep in mind if installing a moveable airflow block is making sure it will open - always. The first pix I saw of the Van's contraption brought to mind all the friction and hang-ups possible with two multi-perforated plates sliding across each other. Those who have one, what is the interface between the movable parts?
John Siebold
Paul,pboyce said:I think this shutter is a good idea and I'll probably buy one. However, I cannot afford to lose any airflow through the oil cooler in the summer months when I fly from Sedona, AZ to Phoenix, where it gets to be about 110 F.
My thought is to modify the baffle so that the shutter is easily removable for those summer months. Maybe a sleeve on the front of the baffle that the shutter can slide down into. I would get the dual benefit of being able to completely block the air for those very cold winter days as well as being able to easily remove the shutter altogether for summer flying. Can anyone think of a downside to this?
Paul
This is a technical area that probably has more to do with a particular installation than a "one size fits all" approach that would apply to all RV's. My 0-320 barely attained 170 degrees in the hottest of summer weather. Intuitively and after some experimentation, I eventually installed a plate covering the full backside of the oil cooler and by doing so, finally brought the temp up to the 180 degree range. It wasn't until much later I discovered a local 0-320 equipped 1974 Piper Warrior with the identical baffle mounted oil cooler installation as my RV and interestingly, it sports a similar (though factory installed) plate that covers the back side of its oil cooler. Ergo, I'm thinking when I get around to installing the vent/shutter, I may or may not have to remove the back plate to compensate for the "half blocked" condition you note. However, only real world flight testing will determine what is additionally required.pboyce said:It looks like from the photos that this shutter when fully open still blocks close to 1/2 of the air flow. So basically, what this shutter allows is to go from half blocked to fully blocked. This shutter may work great when it's cold out there, but happens when I fly to warmer environs? Half blocked when it's warm out there might not be such a good thing...Paul