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03-03-2016, 07:31 AM
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What Does Boeing 727 s/n 1 and the RV-12 Have in Common?
Mr. Bob Bogash.
[indent]"The first Boeing 727 — a model that became one of the company’s top-selling planes of all time — will take to the skies one last time after a 25-year restoration effort. It’s bound for its final home, the Museum of Flight." ( read article)

image courtesy Steve Ringman/ The Seattle Times
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03-03-2016, 07:54 AM
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Great story!!
The Museum of Flight is a must see for aviators, I love the place.
As popular as the 727 was I disliked it intensely.
It wasn't the airplane it was the flight engineer panel, spent somewhere near 2000 hours at it waiting for a pilot slot. A totally boring, useless job. Had it been moved forward a bit either pilot could have operated it.
Those were good days though, we had a lot of fun in the three holer. Some guys called it the "morphidite", three engine, give me a break. 
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03-03-2016, 08:59 AM
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Loved the 727
Coming out of the tanker (KC-135) with water injected engines and no thrust reverse, the B-727 seemed like a thoroughly modern airplane.
The tanker had to be muscled with finesse. The 72 flew with fingertips and was a delight to fly - like a fine luxury car of the day versus a dump truck.
I especially liked our "shortys" (the -100) they had brakes on the nose wheel as well as the mains and you could get that baby stopped! Great on short runways in the Caribbean.
It was retired before I was senior enough to check out as Captain.
We affectionately referred to it as the "Harley".
I missed it, how is the 72 similar to the RV-12?
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03-03-2016, 09:48 AM
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and to think
Someone banned him from this forum.
[ed. Nobody banned him. His user account is http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...er.php?u=15051 - just hasn't logged in since '14. b,d]
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03-03-2016, 10:58 AM
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Museum of Flight
As a side note about the Museum of Flight.
They have a display of a restored UH-1H "Huey" 69-15140 which flew in Vietnam with B. Co. 158th, Avn. BN, 101st Abn. Div. "Lancers" Mostly flown out of Camp Evans in Northern I Corps.
During the time frame between January of 1971 and April of 1971, I flew as one of many "peter pilots" on this aircraft under the watchful eyes of CW2 John Donaldson. I turned 20 while serving with the Lancers.
The picture in the bellow link is CW2 John Donaldson who was the primary Aircraft Commander for 140. John, now suffers from sever PTSD attributed to his time in Vietnam.
https://www.museumofflight.org/exhib...uh-1h-iroquois
Lancers Homepage
http://www.thelancers.org/
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03-03-2016, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JPalese
I missed it, how is it similar to the RV-12?
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Read the thread title a bit closer; it's not "how are they similar", it's "what do these two ships have in common"...
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03-03-2016, 12:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N42AH
The picture in the bellow link is CW2 John Donaldson who was the primary Aircraft Commander for 140. John, now suffers from sever PTSD attributed to his time in Vietnam.
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I thank him for his service and feel bad that he now can't fully enjoy his life with the freedom he provided us.
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03-03-2016, 10:50 PM
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"in common" = similar?
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Originally Posted by jbDC9
Read the thread title a bit closer; it's not "how are they similar", it's "what do these two ships have in common"...
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Sorry - while I did not use the exact same word - unless I am mistaken 'similar' is a synonym for "in common."
In any event, what is the answer to the question?
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03-03-2016, 10:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JPalese
Sorry - while I did not use the exact same word - unless I am mistaken 'similar' is a synonym for "in common."
In any event, what is the answer to the question?
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No, my wife and I have a lot in common but are really not similar.
And I guess the answer is Bob Bogash, and his efforts to get one of each airborne. I think that was actually answered in the first post, though.
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