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11-04-2020, 03:42 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: central Minnesota
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Being new to experimental aircraft, I was interested to note that FARs require a “ Passenger warning ― this aircraft does not comply etc etc etc....” placard on the panel. I was wondering about that but sure enough, it was right there in the glove box.
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11-04-2020, 04:18 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,918
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Read your operating limitations....
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Originally Posted by MacCool
Being new to experimental aircraft, I was interested to note that FARs require a “ Passenger warning ― this aircraft does not comply etc etc etc....” placard on the panel. I was wondering about that but sure enough, it was right there in the glove box.
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It cannot be "in" the glove box. It must be visible to everyone in the aircraft.
Your operating limitations should include a statement that says:
"Except for single-place aircraft, the following placard must be displayed in the aircraft in full view of all occupants: "PASSENGER WARNING - THIS AIRCRAFT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FEDERAL AFETY REGULATIONS FOR STANDARD AIRCRAFT."
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EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
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Last edited by Mel : 11-04-2020 at 05:30 PM.
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11-04-2020, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: central Minnesota
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You’re right Mel...that’s exactly what it says in my operating limits.
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11-04-2020, 05:22 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Edinburg, TX
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Mel is the 2" "experimental" required on a single seat aircraft?
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11-04-2020, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Originally Posted by Jrskygod
Mel is the 2" "experimental" required on a single seat aircraft?
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Yes...............One exception however is that you may substitute an "NX...." number on an RV-3 because it is a replica of an aircraft built over 30 years ago.
ref: §45.22(b)
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century. Over 1,000 certifications accomplished.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
Last edited by Mel : 11-04-2020 at 07:10 PM.
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11-04-2020, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: KSGJ / TJBQ
Posts: 2,126
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Originally Posted by DylanRush
I recently added a circuit breaker for my new GPS (far left, unlabeled). The old circuit breaker labeled GPS is really for the ADSB and secondary EFIS.
I want to revise the placard that I have here but I'm not sure where to source it from. Any suggestions?
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Go to a local trophy shop with your design. Most of them can do a real good job for a very reasonable price.

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11-04-2020, 09:03 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 176
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Originally Posted by DylanRush
I want to revise the placard that I have here but I'm not sure where to source it from. Any suggestions?
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I’ve used these guys for certified and experimental aircraft.
https://www.engravers.net/
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11-05-2020, 08:04 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 883
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Originally Posted by Nihon_Ni
I'm curious about the changes you are wanting to make. I'm also planning to do a dry transfer & clear coat application for labels. I only have two CBs, so they aren't likely to change.
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I used the dry transfer method on the last but one panel I did.
Surface prepped the aluminium panel with a light sanding, wiped with acetone, used a couple coats of primer surfacer with a light sanding then 3 or 4 coats of light grey and sanded dead smooth. Waited a few days to ensure paint was proper hard, then rubbed on the lettering. Followed that up with several coats of satin clear without sanding in between coats, then sanded, and a final coat of satin.
Looked gorgeous.
Its about impossible to change anything without completely starting over or it'll look like ****, but if you get it right its lovely.
My last panel I did in carbon fibre and did silver on black from a label printer with each label in a cartouche.
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11-05-2020, 10:00 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 2,112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nihon_Ni
I'm curious about the changes you are wanting to make. I'm also planning to do a dry transfer & clear coat application for labels. I only have two CBs, so they aren't likely to change.
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I am adding dual EI and eventually a GPS navigator. I included a spare breaker for this stuff, but the label won't match the rest. Minor, but over time I expect more will change. That is why I may consider a different label system for just the breakers. It sounds like you won't have that same issue.
I love the dry-transfer label though. I did mine with a flat 2k clear. Zero glare, super easy to read. No complaints at all.

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