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Old 11-04-2020, 03:42 PM
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Being new to experimental aircraft, I was interested to note that FARs require a “ Passenger warning ― this aircraft does not comply etc etc etc....” placard on the panel. I was wondering about that but sure enough, it was right there in the glove box.
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Old 11-04-2020, 04:18 PM
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Being new to experimental aircraft, I was interested to note that FARs require a “ Passenger warning ― this aircraft does not comply etc etc etc....” placard on the panel. I was wondering about that but sure enough, it was right there in the glove box.
It cannot be "in" the glove box. It must be visible to everyone in the aircraft.

Your operating limitations should include a statement that says:

"Except for single-place aircraft, the following placard must be displayed in the aircraft in full view of all occupants: "PASSENGER WARNING - THIS AIRCRAFT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FEDERAL AFETY REGULATIONS FOR STANDARD AIRCRAFT."
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Old 11-04-2020, 05:06 PM
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You’re right Mel...that’s exactly what it says in my operating limits.
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Old 11-04-2020, 05:22 PM
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Mel is the 2" "experimental" required on a single seat aircraft?
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Old 11-04-2020, 05:29 PM
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Mel is the 2" "experimental" required on a single seat aircraft?
Yes...............One exception however is that you may substitute an "NX...." number on an RV-3 because it is a replica of an aircraft built over 30 years ago.
ref: §45.22(b)
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:08 PM
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I recently added a circuit breaker for my new GPS (far left, unlabeled). The old circuit breaker labeled GPS is really for the ADSB and secondary EFIS.

I want to revise the placard that I have here but I'm not sure where to source it from. Any suggestions?
Go to a local trophy shop with your design. Most of them can do a real good job for a very reasonable price.

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Old 11-04-2020, 09:03 PM
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I want to revise the placard that I have here but I'm not sure where to source it from. Any suggestions?
I’ve used these guys for certified and experimental aircraft.

https://www.engravers.net/
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:04 AM
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I'm curious about the changes you are wanting to make. I'm also planning to do a dry transfer & clear coat application for labels. I only have two CBs, so they aren't likely to change.
I used the dry transfer method on the last but one panel I did.

Surface prepped the aluminium panel with a light sanding, wiped with acetone, used a couple coats of primer surfacer with a light sanding then 3 or 4 coats of light grey and sanded dead smooth. Waited a few days to ensure paint was proper hard, then rubbed on the lettering. Followed that up with several coats of satin clear without sanding in between coats, then sanded, and a final coat of satin.

Looked gorgeous.

Its about impossible to change anything without completely starting over or it'll look like ****, but if you get it right its lovely.

My last panel I did in carbon fibre and did silver on black from a label printer with each label in a cartouche.
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Old 11-05-2020, 10:00 AM
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I'm curious about the changes you are wanting to make. I'm also planning to do a dry transfer & clear coat application for labels. I only have two CBs, so they aren't likely to change.
I am adding dual EI and eventually a GPS navigator. I included a spare breaker for this stuff, but the label won't match the rest. Minor, but over time I expect more will change. That is why I may consider a different label system for just the breakers. It sounds like you won't have that same issue.

I love the dry-transfer label though. I did mine with a flat 2k clear. Zero glare, super easy to read. No complaints at all.





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