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Old 12-30-2020, 09:34 PM
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Default History.........RV-4: the airplane Van didn't want to design

Just to remind us of what has gone before us....... In The Beginning.....

After designing the RV-3, the first aircraft released for us builders, pilots/builders wanted an airplane they could share the joy in: carry a passenger. After much cajoling, Van reluctantly reneged and the RV-4 was his second design for us not talented enough to design our own. A few amazing designs have crossed his drafting table since.

I have seen this airplane fly many times and it was an inspiration for me to start building my own. I believe it is now a resident of the EAA Museum in OSH. It is good to see it there as an example....the first example...of a very prolific designer of a great airplane series...but it would be nice to see it in the air as well.....

Taken at OSH years ago.......before I jumped in and started my Slow Build RV-4....... Why, back in those days we had to DRILL OUR OWN HOLES....!
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Old 12-30-2020, 10:32 PM
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Default ole blue

I remember that plane from Oshkosh '92 when Jerry van Grunsven (Dick's brother) took me up for a demo flight.

The RV-6 "ole blue" in the background was also as a result of customer demand.

There was no fancy paint or graphics on the prototypes, just plain straight tape was used for the cowl lettering.

BTW I am still setting out and marking and drilling own holes.... starting with empennage kit that arrived in late 1993.
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Old 12-31-2020, 01:13 AM
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RV-4: the airplane Van didn't want to design
Bit of a title here...
Vans also did not want to design the -6, nor any of the handicapped -A version that followed

I’d wish the old man would take to the pen to recount his personal thoughts and feelings at the time, and the following evolution. Put me on the list for that book

PS
good old memories of a demo flight in ol Blue at OSH, guess it was 1987, and one in that very -4 in 1988...
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Old 12-31-2020, 04:18 AM
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As soon as Vans was forced to add a training wheel his concept/ideas changed, poor bugger!
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Old 12-31-2020, 06:21 AM
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"Poor bugger!?"
Nah, just think of ALL THAT GOLD, and the MANY more people that got to fly an RV!
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Old 12-31-2020, 06:54 AM
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Default RV-4

Those were fun days. I still have the May 1980 magazine where the -4 was introduced. I built serial number 706 and then a few years later number 1106. I currently have number 695. Iím a die hard -4 guy and have right around 3500 hours of time in the -4. I flew my -4 to Vans homecoming in 1985 and met Van and the staff for the first time. Good memories.
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:22 AM
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We just purchased Ser#27, shows a manufacture date of 1984. Did customer kits actually start with Ser #1?
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Old 12-31-2020, 08:20 AM
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Default VANS number assigned to plans I believe.

It is my understanding, the number is assigned to the actual plans, as " early day" RV enthusiasts could ultimately build one from scratch, but only one aircraft could be built from a set of plans. I also believe the plans are a part of the empennage kit which is the normal first step in building. I am curious how many people actually ordered all the subkits at once? I myself bought the empennage/plans from someone else who abandoned it, and started to scratch build the rest..then just realized what a bargain the kit costs where, and bought the rest of the subkits over a period of a couple years. My -4 is VANs S/N 2667, which I also used as my S/N on the registration.
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I purchased the entire kit with one shot, grand total was under $8K.

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Old 12-31-2020, 08:45 AM
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Default RV4 History

The -4 shown in the poster's pic is not Van's prototype.

The N number of the shown aircraft is 24RV and was registered in 1984, Van's prototype is N14RV and was registered in 1979, and now lives in the EAA Museum @ OSH.

The big giveaway is the single piece canopy on 24RV & the "split" two piece system on the prototype - forward fixed section (like RV3) and aft "tip" section.
Van decided on making the whole canopy a single piece tipover on production kits.

I took a ride with Van in 14RV from his home airport, Sunset Airpark in Hillsborough, OR in 1985 - a fun time and the beginning of a life long (at least from that point forward) involvement with RV aircraft.

YMMV

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