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Old 05-31-2021, 12:13 PM
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Default Van's practice kit not very useful (for an RV-12 build)

RV-12iS kits on order, got the practice kit and toolbox in and started to work on them...

Can't do the practice kit per the instructions. I don't have any way to dimple the interior sections of the skins, nor rivet anything that can't be reached with a squeezer.

I have some cheap aluminum pulled rivets, so I'm considering just using those and pretend they're real rivets.

The toolbox looks doable per the instructions. Except maybe the handle clips.
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Old 05-31-2021, 12:40 PM
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I got a close-quarters dimple die for my practice stuff, for example: https://www.cleavelandtool.com/colle...arters-die-set

I don't know if it will end up being useful on an actual plane part yet, and it was not the easiest thing to use. But it beat shelling out a couple hundred (or more) dollars before I was ready.
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Old 05-31-2021, 12:52 PM
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Wouldn't do me any good. I don't have a c-frame or DRDT-2, nor a rivet gun. Not needed for an RV-12.

Oops. I misunderstood what you linked. Yeah, that would let me dimple the skins. Then use pull rivets. Not sure it's worth the effort since the RV-12 doesn't do that.
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Old 05-31-2021, 11:10 PM
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Best prep I did for building the 12 was the EAA weekend course on RV building. They provided all the tools and the instructor was great.
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Old 06-01-2021, 04:33 AM
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Thumbs up Synergy Air classes

I took the fundamentals class at Synergy Air in Newnan, Georgia, not that far from Florida. They do builder assist, and have a BUNCH of RV projects there!
They provide all the tools to complete the one day fundamentals class. Plus, they manufactured SLSA RV12ís for quite a while, so you can pick their brains all day long, and get real answers. (No, I have no interest in them, just my opinion.)

https://synergyair.com/
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:57 AM
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I'm booked for the Synergy class in a couple months.
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Old 06-01-2021, 06:46 AM
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Not sure it's worth the effort since the RV-12 doesn't do that.
I could swear there were at least one or two places where l had to dimple where a squeezer wouldn't reach, but I could be losing my mind.

There are multiple solutions, but I prefer this bucking block set that you just use with a hammer. It's also handy for dimpling nutplates if you don't want to countersink them. Personally I found countersinking them to be a PITA and very hard on the bit, but a lot of people prefer that method.

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages...kingblocks.php
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Old 06-01-2021, 06:53 AM
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I did just what you are proposing. I dimpled everything, then squeezed all the rivets I could reach (then drilled them all out and did it again), then I ordered some inexpensive flush blind rivets from McMaster-Carr to finish the project. I figured it's a practice project, and blind rivets are what I'll be using, so why not? It was a little disappointing that the project didn't indicate that it couldn't be done with the same tools needed for the RV-12, but in the end I got to try all the techniques I hope I'll need for riveting. Now I'm using it to try different primers and paints. It won't be a pretty toolbox when I'm done, but for me the point was to have an inexpensive way to learn and make mistakes that I won't fret over later.
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:36 AM
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For future reference-
The OP-51 practice project is the one that was developed specifically for someone planning to build an RV-12.
It actually originated for use in the first RV-12 teen build project done here at Van's Aircraft, and has been used in 50+ since then as well as by many solo builders.
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