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Old 04-05-2021, 01:09 PM
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Default Spin out of a skid.....as in base to final screw-up.....

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Vac has a good video about stalls in the base to final turn, going all the way into the spin, with excellent explanation on what's happening, and also accompanied by AOA tones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5xntbFSHf0

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Great video! Everyone should watch this! It's what I was describing in my previous post. What might be described as "a must to avoid" (with apologies to Herman's Hermits.....).

A spin is a sudden onset of unusual attitude and the corrective "reflex" is usually wrong: pull back as Ma Earth is coming up and the cows are spinning and getting larger. Push forward and opposite rudder. The Cub winds up a little after the second turn but if you just let go of everything, she takes another turn and a half or so before coming out of it without input from the pilot. Better with pilot input....

If you have not done them, again, go find an instructor that teaches them. See what they look like, how to avoid them and what to do to get out of them, if there is room (i.e., not on base to final). Knowing how to avoid getting there in the first place can save your life.
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Old 04-05-2021, 01:27 PM
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The Cub winds up a little after the second turn but if you just let go of everything, she takes another turn and a half or so before coming out of it without input from the pilot.
Not just the Cub either; I did spin training on my last FR in my -7 and it recovered if you just let go at spin onset almost as fast as with anti-spin inputs.
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Old 04-05-2021, 01:54 PM
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Default Great design!

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Not just the Cub either; I did spin training on my last FR in my -7 and it recovered if you just let go at spin onset almost as fast as with anti-spin inputs.
The -4 recovers quickly as well. I have heard not as quickly as the -6/7 (rumor) as there is a larger fuselage side area to blunt the effect. Never spun a -6/7.

Yet another attribute of very well-designed airplanes! Thanks, Van!
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