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Old 02-03-2021, 07:25 AM
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I’ve owned an RV-3, an RV-4 and now fly an -8. Having a bunch of hours in bubble canopies I would caution you against an IPAD. I don't like them because they never seem to be bright enough to read in full sunlight and I have had several shut down in flight due to overheating, others have different experiences. In the -4 I had a Garmin Aera 660 that was always nice & bright and it was hard wired to a GDL-39 3D so always had full ADSB IN along with Adhars for the synthetic vision backup. The G5 with a backup battery was the primary display but also had round dial airspeed and altitude.

I had the same issue in the -4, I didn’t want to put in a new panel so I was able to shoehorn everything on the existing panel the way I wanted with a little creative thinking. In your configuration I would recommend you take a look at the new Garmin Aera 760. I also have a 660 in my -8 and love it, it’s very bright and a great backup to the main EFIS. The 760 is bigger than the 660 and about the size of Ipad Mini.

You can get a lot of stuff in a panel if you take your time and look for used equipment to save $$. As others have said, I would put the primary flight display top dead center as high as you can put it.

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Old 02-03-2021, 09:02 AM
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About using it for formation... The radio should be closer to your throttle hand, as that's the one you'll want to use most to change it. Otherwise, you'll be forever switching hands to switch radio frequencies.

Even better, wire the flip-flop button to your stick. Set up the next frequency in the backup, and you don't have to move your hands to switch frequencies. Some radios let you use two buttons, one to cycle through memorized frequencies and another to flip-flop them into the active window. If you have that option, do it.
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Old 02-03-2021, 09:17 AM
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I'm assuming you haven't yet bought any instruments, since you said proposed.
So, Everything you have, except radio and TXP, is available in one EFIS package and uses a lot less space. For example, GRT offers a VFR EFIS package for a very good price. I'm sure Dynon does, too. I think it would be lighter in weight and it's made to be viewed in sunlight.
That would leave room for a standard radio stack. (Unless you just happen to like the look of round gauges, which a lot of folks do.)
Then you could bring your iPad as a back up.
That's what I did in my RV3B and it has worked out great, for me. It even has an auto pilot as part of the EFIS installation.
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Old 02-03-2021, 02:57 PM
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About using it for formation... The radio should be closer to your throttle hand, as that's the one you'll want to use most to change it. Otherwise, you'll be forever switching hands to switch radio frequencies.

Even better, wire the flip-flop button to your stick. Set up the next frequency in the backup, and you don't have to move your hands to switch frequencies. Some radios let you use two buttons, one to cycle through memorized frequencies and another to flip-flop them into the active window. If you have that option, do it.
The flip flop is a great Idea, I'll have an infinity stick so I have the buttons for that. I have had radios by my throttle hand years past, but I want to see if it's better being top center. In the -3 everything is reachable with my left hand...very small cockpit.
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Old 02-03-2021, 03:03 PM
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I'm assuming you haven't yet bought any instruments, since you said proposed.
So, Everything you have, except radio and TXP, is available in one EFIS package and uses a lot less space. For example, GRT offers a VFR EFIS package for a very good price. I'm sure Dynon does, too. I think it would be lighter in weight and it's made to be viewed in sunlight.
That would leave room for a standard radio stack. (Unless you just happen to like the look of round gauges, which a lot of folks do.)
Then you could bring your iPad as a back up.
That's what I did in my RV3B and it has worked out great, for me. It even has an auto pilot as part of the EFIS installation.
I do like the GRT, but I have already bought the AV-30 (mostly for the ADSB capability) and the TruTrack AP. Plus, the round guages fit in the holes currently in the panel, so ease of construction was what I was going for. I have emergency procedures if everything goes black...I carry a Garmin 296 in my flight bag as a back-up navigator :-)
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Old 02-03-2021, 05:03 PM
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I've always thought having anything you need to twiddle, turn, twist or tap should be on the left side so your non-stick (non-flying) hand can manipulate it without incurring sympathetic movement to your right arm or hand.

Esssssspecially if you fly a lot of formation...
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Old 02-03-2021, 10:37 PM
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I think you will be very happy with the AV-30. They work very well and are pleasant to look at. Make sure to add the OAT option.

My only change would be using an aera 760 in lieu of the iPad for readability, reliability and all-around awesomeness.

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