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Old 11-17-2021, 09:26 PM
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Default Proposing...THE RV-16!!

...and why not ?!

What do you get when you expand the size of an RV-7?
The RV-14!
After all: RV-7 x 2 = RV-14

With that in mind....

What do you get when you expand the size of an RV-8?
The RV-16!
After all: RV-8 x 2 = RV-16!!

More power, roomier, etc etc The math certainly works, don't it?

What say you, Vans?

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Old 11-17-2021, 09:35 PM
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I think I've seen the prototype...
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Old 11-18-2021, 08:30 AM
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Default RV15

A Gull wing door RV14 with side door baggage access and it be big enough for a one person small jump seat.
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Old 11-18-2021, 05:37 PM
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And, of course, an IO-720
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Old 11-19-2021, 08:47 AM
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RV-16,
Two RV-8 fuselages joined together, somewhat like this guy !!!
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Old 11-19-2021, 08:33 PM
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I've wondered about going the other way. F1 Rockets already covered the hopped up, fast (thirsty) tandem seat market. They don't seem to be selling too quickly, so why enter a small market. How about a tandem seat version of the RV-12? Kits and airplane stuff isn't getting any cheaper, neither is avgas. After one tires of bragging rights, speed is just a number on a dial. Sporty, fun, efficient, tandem seater. Nothing to win races with, but have a blast on a beautiful Saturday afternoon cruise.

I know the RV-12 kits are similarly priced to RV-9, so maybe work on bringing the kit costs and everything a little lower and capture the market of those who don't have 200 grand budget. Realistically, all in and flying for 75 grand?
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Old 11-19-2021, 09:40 AM
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...and why not ?!

What do you get when you expand the size of an RV-7?
The RV-14!
After all: RV-7 x 2 = RV-14

With that in mind....

What do you get when you expand the size of an RV-8?
The RV-16!
After all: RV-8 x 2 = RV-16!!

More power, roomier, etc etc The math certainly works, don't it?

What say you, Vans?

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Would you not then have a F1 Rocket?
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Old 11-19-2021, 10:21 AM
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I think the RV-16 should be a F1 Rocket killer. Make it easier to build with pre-drilled holes. The RV-16 should be made to fit the IO540 engine or anything more extreme. Since the days of the Reno unlimited warbirds are numbered, the sports class is where the racing action is. Have an option of extendable wingtips like the 15M glider that can extend the wings to 18M so the plane can have good cruise performance flying to the races and the option for shorter wingspan for more speed. When at the race, take off the wingtips for shorter wingspan to gain more top speed around the pylons. Add the wingtips back for the cruise trip home. This option will match the F1 Rocket in term of speed and have better cruise efficiency for the long cross-country flights. With the legendary Vans customer support and easy to build, it should attract a lot of speed addicts.
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Old 11-19-2021, 11:05 AM
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I think the RV-16 should be a F1 Rocket killer. Make it easier to build with pre-drilled holes. The RV-16 should be made to fit the IO540 engine or anything more extreme. Since the days of the Reno unlimited warbirds are numbered, the sports class is where the racing action is. Have an option of extendable wingtips like the 15M glider that can extend the wings to 18M so the plane can have good cruise performance flying to the races and the option for shorter wingspan for more speed. When at the race, take off the wingtips for shorter wingspan to gain more top speed around the pylons. Add the wingtips back for the cruise trip home. This option will match the F1 Rocket in term of speed and have better cruise efficiency for the long cross-country flights. With the legendary Vans customer support and easy to build, it should attract a lot of speed addicts.
Now THAT would absolutely be my next purchase order. Yes, 100%. All in, right now.
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Old 11-19-2021, 11:30 AM
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Thinking of racing - there is also potential for going smaller. Maybe Vans should look at a mid winged replacement for the Cassutt. Get more budget oriented folks involved in the shifting Reno racing focus. Also there is the potential STOL drags, for this super fun class, the Vans Ground Pounder!

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