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Old 07-06-2022, 08:11 AM
DadBod Builder DadBod Builder is offline
 
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Default Temporary Wing Bolts?

I don't want to use the supplied wing bolts to temporarily bolt the fuselage forward and aft sections together per section 28 and bolts from ACS are very very expensive. What route have some of you taken and size did you use? I also don't want to just get steel because I think it could cause corrosion. Don't hold back and I will take any advice and input. I'm not too proud to ask for help. You guys always have better ideas than just me.
Thanks for the help.
I live in the Chicago area so I can get just about anything here.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:21 AM
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I used hardware store bolts and grinded them to a blunt point to make them easier to get in and out. If you lube them it will make it easier to remove. I didnt concern myself with the corrosion issue. Maybe that was incorrect but I did not see any issues.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:46 AM
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Similar to Rocky, but got bolts long enough that I could cut off the threaded area, just leave a straight shank. Rounded off the end to make a bit easier to insert.

I was concerned the threaded part could damage the hole inner surface if things were misaligned at all.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:47 AM
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So I also used hardware store bolts, 3/8" dia, 4 total with 2 in each wing (one top and one bottom per my plans). I turned the bolts into pins by grinding off the threads and lightly coating them with oil. Worked just fine.
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Old 07-06-2022, 03:00 PM
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See Step 1 on drawing page 44-3 (Fuselage drawing set). It calls out 3/8" bolts ground down to act as drift pins.:

" Step 1: Slide the wing spar (left shown) into the fuselage and temporarily pin as shown in Figure
1.

When bringing the spar into it's exact position, lining up the bolt holes in the bulkhead and spar,
it is often helpful to use drift pins. This could be a disposable hardware store bolt with the end
rounded or tapered on a grinder. GENTLY driving this lubricated pin into a nearly aligned hole
will center the bulkhead/spar hole so that the bolts can be installed without excessive force.

It is recommended that 3/8 dia. hardware store bolts be used for test fitting to prevent damage to
the holes and NAS bolts. For fitting, it is only necessary to install four 3/8 bolts(pins), one
top and one bottom per wing."

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Old 07-06-2022, 03:19 PM
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Remember that the wing bolts have a tight tolerance so if you can toss them in a refrig or freezer for about an hour before then add some grease before installing it will make inserting them easier to install.
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Old 07-06-2022, 06:39 PM
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I too got hardware store bolts and not only but they were Grade 8 and anodized.
They "almost" looked like the close tolerance bolts needed for final assembly.
In a moment of over exuberance I accidentally grabbed the close tolerance bolts and proceeded to grind off the thread .
You can guess the rest of the story....
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Old 07-06-2022, 07:34 PM
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My zinc plated hardware store bolts didnít corrode, and still havenít. And that has been 20+ years, and four RV builds. Of course I lubed them up before inserting them (ground down to a rounded end). You can have them if you want. Iíve built my last RV (almost done).
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Old 07-07-2022, 10:21 AM
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Thank you but I will save the money and buy some at the hardware store. Shipping would kill me. Haha
Thanks everyone for the information.
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Old 07-07-2022, 05:35 PM
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The first time I put my wings on was also the final time. It took a bit of prep work and minor changes to the order if operations but it was very much worth it to me to do it that way.
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