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Old 09-22-2021, 05:31 PM
Skot7ac Skot7ac is offline
 
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Default Advice For Future RV-8 Sale

I was wondering if anyone who has sent their 8 to a new home had any advice for the process? I know, best advice is donít do it and Iím still mulling it over a bit, but I think in the near future our 8 will probably be looking form a new home. Iím quite terrible at this as every airplane Iíve sold has remained on our local airport (KARB), but what would have made the process easier?
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Old 10-13-2021, 07:52 AM
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I'm interested in buying an 8. Can you send me details and pics?

Thank you!

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Old 10-13-2021, 08:22 AM
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Not much to it really. Have a signed bill of sale (EAA makes decent one) that removes liability from builder.

One thing I found worked when I tried to sell one of my RVs is updating pictures on the ad every once in a while. Adding details and new pics seemed to gather more interest.

Should be easy to sell if its a standard 8.
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Old 10-13-2021, 10:26 AM
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I was wondering if anyone who has sent their 8 to a new home had any advice for the process? I know, best advice is donít do it and Iím still mulling it over a bit, but I think in the near future our 8 will probably be looking form a new home. Iím quite terrible at this as every airplane Iíve sold has remained on our local airport (KARB), but what would have made the process easier?
I don't have an RV, but I think who you sell your plane to is just as important. I built a Lindy winning LongEZ and a guy who just really wanted a canard got in touch with me. I eventually sold the plane at a very good price. When I delivered the plane to the Left Coast, I taxied up to his hangar and found that the only tool in the hangar was a funnel. When he had a problem with the plane the first thing he did was call me and ask what was wrong with it. So you try to help, but the guy couldn't be convinced to remove the cowling.

So I think there is more to selling an experimental airplane than just a liability release. Make sure the owner embodies the spirit of experimental aviation and wants to learn about the plane and work on it, not just jump in and go like a rental.

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Old 10-13-2021, 09:46 PM
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I don't have an RV, but I think who you sell your plane to is just as important. I built a Lindy winning LongEZ and a guy who just really wanted a canard got in touch with me. I eventually sold the plane at a very good price. When I delivered the plane to the Left Coast, I taxied up to his hangar and found that the only tool in the hangar was a funnel. When he had a problem with the plane the first thing he did was call me and ask what was wrong with it. So you try to help, but the guy couldn't be convinced to remove the cowling.

So I think there is more to selling an experimental airplane than just a liability release. Make sure the owner embodies the spirit of experimental aviation and wants to learn about the plane and work on it, not just jump in and go like a rental.

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Old 10-14-2021, 08:00 AM
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As a buyer, it's really frustrating finding one for sale, finding anyone to do a pre-buy is next to impossible, and the cost of going around looking at aircraft all over the country is a headache.

The seller I got in touch with was very honest and open, had all the docs ready, took me through the build log, etc. You may think I'm crazy, I didn't do a pre-buy. Every plane is going to have it's gotcha's you need to work on and pay $$ to get right, regardless of how diligent you were. Certified planes are even worse.

I went with my gut feeling on the seller and it worked out.
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Old 10-14-2021, 10:24 AM
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I did the same. Purchased a RV6A, had many conversations and walk thrus on the aircraft with builder. Researched as many known problems I could from this forum and inspected aircraft using all the suggestions and tips from forum. Happy as can be.
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Old 10-14-2021, 11:49 AM
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Have a signed bill of sale (EAA makes decent one) that removes liability from builder. .
Don't want to start a debate, but the builders liability cannot be eliminated like this. If this is a concern to the OP, do your research. Generally speaking, the builders concern is that if a future pilot dies in a plane that you built, it is the family that will sue you and the pilot cannot legally sign away his families rights to sue you. You would need waivers from all parties involved in that pilots potential estate/financial dependence circle. Even if the pilot is just injured, there are many legal remedies to side step a limitation of liability agreement, if negligence can be proven (not as hard as most people would think). The cornerstone of most lawsuits like this is negligence or duty of care violations.

Also, when buyer A sells the airplane to buyer B, you no longer have a liability waiver and it is just as easy for Buyer B to sue the builder as Buyer A. Cessna gets sued constantly eventhough the plane has been bought and sold 10 times.

What you have going for you is that the buyer knowingly purchased a plane that was built in some average guys garage; This assumes a level of risk taking. That lowers the expectation of quality and makes negligence tougher to prove. Don't ever make claims to a buyer like this plane is just as good or better than a certified plane

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Old 10-14-2021, 11:47 PM
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Make a detailed video with your phone showing the entire aircraft and any dents and scratches. You could even show doing a compression check of the engine. It is very easy to set up a YouTube account and post the video there. A detailed video is almost as good as going on road trip to see the plane.
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Old 11-03-2021, 03:53 PM
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Thanks all, just touching back in this topic as my work schedule got very busy. Appreciate all the input!
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