Thoughts on Zip Ties in engine compartment

[pa38112]

For wires I alwas use wire lacing wether it is FWF or not. It taks a bit more work, but I find the finished product to be much more attractive and profesional. I don't try to run a continuious length or use the proper knots. I wrap it around twice and tie a simpe squair knot, then trim the ends.

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catal...lickkey=113747

[BCP Boys]

Originally Posted by MacCool

Mike Patey must have been that guy, huh?

https://griplockties.com/mikepatey/

Actually Creighton King is the inventor but the Patey brothers invested in him and created the company. Absolutely great product and even better people to buy from.

[Anon455]

Originally Posted by Scott Hersha

I use these ones on my engine mount tubes on my RV4:

https://griplockties.com/

I camped next to the inventors at Airventure 2019. That’s the first I had heard of them. He gave me a couple to try. I ended up buying a couple bags in different sizes. The red silicone rubber protects the mount tube, and they are high temp. You can also release them until you get everything right where you want it and cut the tail off.

Scott ~ thank you for posting that link

[MacCool]

Originally Posted by BCP Boys

Actually Creighton King is the inventor but the Patey brothers invested in him and created the company. Absolutely great product and even better people to buy from.

I have a drawer-full of them too. Excellent product, I agree. They are available on Amazon.... https://www.amazon.com/s?k=griptie&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

[MacCool]

.dupe, sorry

[pilotkms]

I use both Adel clamps and Zip ties FWF. The Zip ties I use are the blue Tefzel ones, good to 300 degrees. Bought mine from Stein back in the build phase.
No problems with DAR or A&Ps. And they complement my Blue motor.

[deltawhiskey]

The original builder of my -8 used zip ties to hold wire bundles to the enging mount. They held up just fine in the environment but in all locations they made their mark (literally) on the mount. Pic attached of the "railroad tracks" that are cut into the paint.

Most were replaced with clamps at the first condition inspection I did. In areas where zip ties remain, the engine mount was locally wrapped with either self-fusing silicone ("F-4"/Rescue) tape or fiberglass tape to give the zip ties something else to dig in to. Holding up fine so far with no more "railroad tracks."

FWIW, I also give my wire bundles a couple of wraps with fiberglass tape to protect them in the areas that are being secured with zip ties. Some wiring insulations are tough enough that it's belt + suspenders protection. However, some FEP (Teflon) insulation on avionics data cables will chafe if you look at it sideways. Add a bit of vibe and you're cutting through before you know it.

These griplock ties sound like they'll kill multiple birds with minimal stones. I ordered a bag and am eager to put them to the test.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by MacCool

I have a drawer-full of them too. Excellent product, I agree. They are available on Amazon.... https://www.amazon.com/s?k=griptie&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

That link didn't bring them up, but after some digging I was able to find one that would:
https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Releas.../dp/B07PW9X957

For some reason even searching for "grip lock tie" on amazon didn't bring this up. Maybe because they're out of stock?

[8MikeXray]

Try these rubber cushioned zip ties

https://griplockties.com/