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Old 07-19-2021, 11:44 AM
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Default Right of Way - Aircraft or Mower

Who has it? I know if there is an accident it really doesn’t matter and the Regs probably address this.

Anyway - When I flew back to my home airport today there was a young guy on a mower cutting the grass adjacent to the runway. He didn’t have a radio and did not “pull over” as there wasn’t a convenient spot to do this. Runway is registered, 50ft wide x 3800ft long, paved with 10 ft wide grass either side.

I landed long to touch down behind him and suggested to the airport manager that they clear the runway when an aircraft comes in and that they should be on the radio.
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Old 07-19-2021, 12:52 PM
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He is not going to hear the radio over the mower. He is focused on mowing, not looking for you. Buzz him and give him time to move.
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Old 07-19-2021, 12:58 PM
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With a 50 foot wide runway if he’s not on the pavement I fail to see where the conflict occurs. You stay on the runway and he stays on the grass; seems pretty straightforward to me.
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Old 07-19-2021, 01:05 PM
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He is not going to hear the radio over the mower. He is focused on mowing, not looking for you. Buzz him and give him time to move.
When I mow my airport, I have a handheld radio with earplug. I can hear traffic just fine.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:15 PM
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When I mow my airport, I have a handheld radio with earplug. I can hear traffic just fine.
This. Doing anything in or around an airport runway without radio communication with airplanes or at least the FBO seems kind of...uh... "unwise" to me.

My little Sporty's hand-held has jacks for a standard aviation NC headset. Why an FBO would send someone to mow adjacent to the runway without such equipment is beyond me.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:17 PM
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He who is the biggest and least to get damaged has the right of way.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:23 PM
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With a 50 foot wide runway if he’s not on the pavement I fail to see where the conflict occurs. You stay on the runway and he stays on the grass; seems pretty straightforward to me.

Just recently, close to Montreal, a young lady on a tractor was mowing besides the runway. Don't know if she had a radio or not.

She was hit by the wing of a landing plane. Did not survive...
The plane was intensively damaged.


The possible conflict might be an off-center landing (I know, no one ever does that ), a sticking brake, a gust of wind, etc, choose a poison or add another of your choice...

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-w...raft-1.5497279



For me, anything moving or not, "just" by the runway is considered on the runway.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:28 PM
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Our procedure is:

Fly low enough to catch the lawn mowers attention. This is done at a safe altitude, not to scare anyone.

The lawnmower operator gets safely off the runway, and then stands beside the mower.
This lets me know that he knows I am there and he will not cut across the runway until I am safely clear.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:37 PM
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Who has it? I know if there is an accident it really doesn’t matter and the Regs probably address this.
On runways and taxiways, airplanes always have right of way. I believe that is even the case for emergency ground vehicles. At a towered field where I fly, ground vehicles require the same clearances as planes to operate on taxiways and runways, and seem to always get the lowest priority. Since planes are harder to start, stop, and turn, right of way for aircraft makes sense.

All that being said, I also have the right of way when I'm riding in a straight line on a road in the bike lane on my 15 pound carbon fiber bike. The 6000 pound SUV that cuts in front of me, runs a stop sign, turns without looking, and is completely unaware of anyone else is supposed to be yielding to me.

You can have the right of way and still not live to appreciate it...
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Old 07-19-2021, 06:01 PM
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I landed long to touch down behind him and suggested to the airport manager that they clear the runway when an aircraft comes in and that they should be on the radio.
Meaning tractor guy saw the airplane on approach? & didn't clear?
Yes, a good talking to the manager is the minimum action & if not resulting in positive reaction, a talk to TC enforcement might be in order.

But I would have overshot & came in for a second approach. Would have given more weight to your report.
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