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  #111  
Old 01-29-2023, 04:57 PM
ShawnR ShawnR is offline
 
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Unhappy Wrong valve

I ordered the 3 port. A/S says the 4 port is for 3 tanks.
I should be able to change it.

From the A/S description....

Indicating click on 3-port and 4-port valve (CN models) tells when handle is in full open or closed position. Tested to 30 PSI. Not FAA approved. *For 2 tanks. Flow is from either side to branch. **For 3 tanks. Flow is from any side to bottom outlet. Note: Order valve with 1/4" pipe threads for 3/8" dia. fuel line. Order valve with 3/8" pipe threads for 1/2" dia. fuel line. These pipe thread sizes are the ones normally associated with the indicated tube sizes.

* For 2 tanks. Flow is from either side to branch.
** For 3 tanks. Flow is from any side to bottom outlet.
Note: Order valve with 1/4" pipe threads for 3/8" dia. fuel line. Order valve with 3/8" pipe threads for 1/2" dia fuel line. These pipe thread sizes are the ones normally associated with the indicated tube sizes.


I will cancel it and wait till I order from Van's. Thank you for the heads up.
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Old 03-08-2023, 06:50 AM
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It has been quite a while since I updated. Progress has been slower than expected, which seems the norm.

I did up the switch panel and covers on the right side. I went with 2 rockers for Master and Alternator, but toggles for the other switches. One is avionics and the other three are just lights. I decided to put the fuel pump switch next to the fuel pump valve. This seems to make sense to me versus mixed in the light switches. Not much else in the aircraft. Pretty basic.

I did more or less finish the quadrant area but need to reposition the trim cable to allow for the rear rudder pedals install. I bogged down on this. The trim cable was replaced by the seller. Not sure what the builder had in there. I see the routing is anything but straight and some bulkhead holes are in less than ideal locations. I am not sure if I should make new, central holes in an attempt to align and reposition the cable for my mod, or just leave the ones that I do not need to move as is. The damage is done, in my opinion so to make another hole in a bulkhead just so it looks better, in an area that is not at all visible..... Some holes do not have grommets so I will want to pull the cable out, enlarge the hole slightly and install a grommet. One in particular though is particularly close to the skin. That one might make more sense to either make a new hole, or use a clamp and go beside the bulkhead. I know not the norm, but save another hole in a bulkhead that already has a poorly located holes.

Running out the door but thought I would throw this out there to get the think tank going....
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Old 03-08-2023, 10:13 AM
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Old 03-08-2023, 11:33 AM
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Old 03-08-2023, 02:36 PM
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It has been quite a while since I updated. Progress has been slower than expected, which seems the norm.

I did up the switch panel and covers on the right side. I went with 2 rockers for Master and Alternator....
Nice progress! Yes, it always takes way longer than you think. Figure out how long a project will take, double that and it will take longer. I'm putting a splitter in for my EGT/CHF and just figuring out how everything plugs in is taking me forever.

You MIGHT consider making a cover of some sort for those cute little rocker switches as, if something hits them, you will lose power and wonder why. Just a thought....
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I need to reposition the trim cable to allow for the rear rudder pedals install. I bogged down on this. The trim cable was replaced by the seller. Not sure what the builder had in there. I see the routing is anything but straight and some bulkhead holes are in less than ideal locations.
Well, that cable routing is less than ideal. Since you are going to remove it anyway, I'd put it where it belongs. New holes with snap gromets would be an improvement. If you don't like the old holes, cover them up...

That looks like an extended baggage shelf which may not be the best idea in the world. That may be just a shelf for the ELT but pretty thick material there. Some RV-4s tend to be a little tail-heavy anyway and having baggage (if it is for that) WAY back there seems like not the best place to put it. Along with the weight of the shelf itself. Speaking of not the best, you have a pretty heavy ELT WAY back there as well. Is there a weight-and-balance issue that you NEED all that weight so far back? That might be better located as far forward on the baggage floor as possible. Mine is there and is never in the way. It also makes it MUCH more accessible if you need to take it out and carry it around with you......

Just some thoughts....
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Old 03-08-2023, 04:22 PM
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I would take a real hard look at the DC rating on those mini rockers.
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Old 03-08-2023, 06:05 PM
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You MIGHT consider making a cover of some sort for those cute little rocker switches as, if something hits them, you will lose power and wonder why. Just a thought....
I was toying with that too. Figured I would see how it goes ie get a feel for it when I start flying. I was concerned with toggles being next to the USB and Aux power ports, and them getting flipped accidentally. Also, as suggested here, make things safe if the situation gets a little hot, so I figured rockers are very different than toggles, so the feel would be different. Typing that now though, not sure what situation would become tense that would involve any of the switches. Maybe smoke from electronics so I would want to hit the avionics off quickly till I troubleshoot. I suppose hitting the master would solve the smoke issue, but cause others..... But yes, a cover or bar in front is an option and one I like.

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Well, that cable routing is less than ideal. Since you are going to remove it anyway, I'd put it where it belongs. New holes with snap gromets would be an improvement. If you don't like the old holes, cover them up...

That looks like an extended baggage shelf which may not be the best idea in the world. That may be just a shelf for the ELT but pretty thick material there.
Just the ELT shelf. It is inaccessible usually. But with all of the changes I am making to the plane, I think a whole new W&B will be warrantied.

As for making new holes and installing bushings, then that is easy. I was just concerned about another hole, mostly in that one bulkhead where the cable is beside the skin. The hole is so far off of center. But, I suppose the side skin adds strength to the bulkhead as much as the bulkhead forms the skin.

fl-mike....I ordered those switches for a job many years ago and was surprised at their current rating for their size, but you raise a good point. I see they are rated for 9A at 120 volts but I cannot find a DC equivalent. I may need to search more. One only runs the Master solenoid so not much current on that. I don't know the current on the Alternator switch but had a 5 Amp fuse in mind on that circuit, so I figured they would be OK. I will dig a little deeper. The way I did that panel, it would be a minor issue if I had to replace the whole thing. And there is enough room to put in larger rockers, if I wanted to stay with that line of reasoning/thinking.

But, of course, one does not want to discover that need in the air. Thank you for the alert on it.
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