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Old 03-14-2023, 06:37 PM
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Structural pan heads. You'll never notice the cosmetics vs C/S after completion. Just put a screw every place there was a rivet.
This is what I did.
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Old 03-14-2023, 08:43 PM
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Structural pan heads. You'll never notice the cosmetics vs C/S after completion. Just put a screw every place there was a rivet.
+2. Thats what I would do too. Stick with 0.040" and use pan heads.
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Old 03-14-2023, 09:38 PM
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+2. Thats what I would do too. Stick with 0.040" and use pan heads.
Thanks guys. I'm using AN515-8R8's right now and I'm not crazy about the look. If I can't change my mind on that point, do you think there's any structural concerns going with a thicker cover plate with countersunk screw holes and using a screw like an AN509?
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Old 03-15-2023, 12:54 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm using AN515-8R8's right now and I'm not crazy about the look. If I can't change my mind on that point, do you think there's any structural concerns going with a thicker cover plate with countersunk screw holes and using a screw like an AN509?
Double check if 0.063" is thick enough to countersink for #8 before you go to the trouble. If it is, then structurally it is fine. Just heavier with that thick plate.
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Old 03-16-2023, 09:49 AM
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A plate thick enough to accept a #8 screw countersink would also have an unusual appearance to it. IIRC, the head height for that screw is 0.072", so it would become a very thick plate, 0.080 or more.
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Old 03-16-2023, 12:59 PM
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Double check if 0.063" is thick enough to countersink for #8 before you go to the trouble. If it is, then structurally it is fine. Just heavier with that thick plate.
Do you recall where you can find the chart for minimum thickness for each screw type? I looked through my books and couldn't find anything other than a recommendation to go no deeper than 2/3rds of the sheet thickness and to leave a minimum of 0.02" beneath the countersink.
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Old 03-16-2023, 02:14 PM
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Do you recall where you can find the chart for minimum thickness for each screw type? I looked through my books and couldn't find anything other than a recommendation to go no deeper than 2/3rds of the sheet thickness and to leave a minimum of 0.02" beneath the countersink.
I just measured an AN509-832 and the head is about 0.077 tall.
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