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12-09-2020, 04:43 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 45
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RV 14 Heat muff
I just replaced one on the forward most muff.
Terry at Vans helped with the drawings it is Vans part number EX-00013C.
Will be watching it closely
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12-09-2020, 09:25 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
Posts: 9,849
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We have noted a lack of longevity of the heat muff end ribs and it is currently being looked at by engineering.
More info when I have it.
In the mean time, be sure to do a thorough exhaust system inspection during each condition inspection in accordance with AC43.13 Appendix D.
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Scott McDaniels
Hubbard, Oregon
Van's Aircraft Engineering Prototype Shop
FAA/DAR
RV-6A (aka "Junkyard Special ")
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12-09-2020, 09:39 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 1,412
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Talked with Rick Robbins. What is the diameter of the muff? If it is 2-3/4 then his endplates can work with our muff bodies.
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12-09-2020, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Simpsonville, SC (SC47)
Posts: 428
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Priority one
So glad to hear that Van's is looking into this.
Obviously, the most serious result of a leak from the exhaust into the heat muff would be CO poisoning. And a failure would start with a very small leak that would easily go unnoticed in its early stages unless the CO in the cockpit was being monitored.
I am nearing completion and think that I may be doing first flight in a couple of months. I'll will watch this closely and look into getting a CO monitor which now has a higher priority.
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Jeff Warren
Simpsonville, SC (@SC47 > 10nm NW Triple Tree)
RV14A (N14ZT), Ser#140195
FF 11/24/21; Phs 1 completed
Contribution made 12/9/21 (USArmy 2/67-2/70)
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12-09-2020, 05:25 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JDA_BTR
Talked with Rick Robbins. What is the diameter of the muff? If it is 2-3/4 then his endplates can work with our muff bodies.
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Muff OD is 2-3/4".
Thanks for the lead to Rick Robbins.
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12-09-2020, 06:37 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Grand Junction, CO
Posts: 112
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Follow up information
Quote:
Originally Posted by JDA_BTR
Talked with Rick Robbins. What is the diameter of the muff? If it is 2-3/4 then his endplates can work with our muff bodies.
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I checked today. The exhaust pipe is 1 3/4 and the muff is 2 3/4. Clint at Vetterman told me Rick Robbins is pretty much retired and has closed down his web site.
As Scott posted, Van's is working on this now and if Rick can still make up end plates, it looks like we can use the existing skins. I have a call into Rick but have not heard back yet.
I'm making up some end plate doublers and clamping angles that will work in a pinch to strengthen the Van's end plates I have on order and allow them to be clamped to the exhaust pipe. It isn't elegant but should work if I cannot get something better from Rick Robbins or Van's. I'm AOG now and neither I nor my airplane like that!
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Grand Junction, CO
RV-8A N751MB -1700 hours, sold
Zenith 801 sold
RV-14A 140134, N465MM - 1000 hours and climbing
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12-09-2020, 06:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Carrollton, GA 5GA2
Posts: 299
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Bill, did Clint mention where he’s getting his heat muffs from if Rick is retired?
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James Hartline
Carrollton, GA 5GA2
RV-14 - Bronze Lindy 2022!!
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12-09-2020, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Grand Junction, CO
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JHartline
Bill, did Clint mention where he’s getting his heat muffs from if Rick is retired?
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No, but I never asked him either. Clearly, he needs a supplier. He did read this thread so maybe he'll pop up with an answer to that question.
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Bill Marvel, ATP, A&P/IA
Grand Junction, CO
RV-8A N751MB -1700 hours, sold
Zenith 801 sold
RV-14A 140134, N465MM - 1000 hours and climbing
Dues paid every year
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12-10-2020, 06:39 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Carrollton, GA 5GA2
Posts: 299
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Jeffw@sc47 - check your PM’s
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James Hartline
Carrollton, GA 5GA2
RV-14 - Bronze Lindy 2022!!
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12-10-2020, 09:17 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Simpsonville, SC (SC47)
Posts: 428
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James - got it
Thanks, looks like a good option.
I went ahead and bought a Klein Tools CO Meter - ET110 to try before I put in a mounted unit. The ET110 is nice because it displays the PPM, uses 4-AAA batteries, a clip on the back side to hang it somewhere, has a 2 yr warranty and the sensor can be expected to go for 5 years before replacement - current cost to update sensor is $50.
I had not come across the GD-40 in previous searching, I like its features, price, and that it is mounted remotely.
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Jeff Warren
Simpsonville, SC (@SC47 > 10nm NW Triple Tree)
RV14A (N14ZT), Ser#140195
FF 11/24/21; Phs 1 completed
Contribution made 12/9/21 (USArmy 2/67-2/70)
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