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Old 08-02-2019, 06:28 PM
2of5 2of5 is offline
 
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Default RV-14 #140665

So, long story: In the late 1980s I was a subscriber to Kitplanes magazine, and saw ads and articles about the RV-3 and -4. That was the plane I wanted to build. I was living at the time near the original location of ACS in Fullerton, so I went there and bought several books by Tony Bingelis, which I still have to this day.

But life and family, as they often do, took precedence. The thought of building took a seat in the "way back" as we used to call it, but I still held onto the books.

In late 2016 I got the itch to look back into building (a RV-7 this time) and set to work locating a partially completed kit. I bought an emp kit from the classifieds here on this site, brought it home and completed the horizontal stab. The vertical and the rudder were done by the previous owner.

December of 2017 my wife and I went to Portland for a long weekend, and my ulterior motive was to get a tour of the Vans mothership. During the tour, I sat with her in their -14 factory plane, and was impressed with the amount of room that it had compared to the -7. I tried at the time to convince my wife that we needed the larger version. But she said we should just continue on with what we already had.

Fast forward to last week at OSH, at the Vans display, I sat with her in the same -14 and in the silver and gray -14A. Without much prompting from me, she agreed that she liked the roomy cabin, and suggested that if I wanted to, we could put a deposit down on the emp kit

I didn't waste a minute going back inside and getting in line with my Visa card.

Got the email yesterday with the agreement to sign, and this evening I got my order acknowledgement and wire transfer instructions. I called Anne to give her my shipping information, and she said they have something like 39 tail kits on order from OSH, and that the crating guys are slammed right now. So in 3 to 6 weeks I should be picking it up in Michigan and bringing it through customs home.

I just keep reminding myself "one bite at a time"
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Old 08-02-2019, 06:38 PM
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Tod
Welcome to the world of the RV14. You will find it a great kit with excellent instructions. There are numerous RVs in the area, Windsor, Sarnia, St.Thomas etc. I believe there is an Oshkosh winner in the Lemmington area. This would be an excellent plane for you to examine and try to emulate. Get to know some of the local builders they will be of great help. This forum is wonderful but it is nothing like having an experienced builder actually show you how to do some of the tasks.

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St.Thomas. 519-281-1369
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Old 08-02-2019, 06:46 PM
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Thanks Tom!
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:07 PM
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You know they are building and doing videos on the build of an rv14 at ch2a in windsor right? There are three 9a, 2 7s and 6a based in windsor. Stop in and say hi anytime.
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Old 08-05-2019, 06:33 AM
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Default Think I convinced Todd to step up

to the -14 after a few flights in my -6A! Todd and I are both "plus" sized and the -6A cockpit is similar to the -7A, so...?...just a bit tight!

I saw pics of Todd's work on his -7A emp and thought the work looked spectacular --- I am sure his -14A will be of high quality.


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Old 08-05-2019, 11:56 AM
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Default RV 7 Emp

Hi Todd
I noticed in your post that you purchased a partially finished RV 7 Emp. Did you buy this from a builder in the USA? If so what problems or issues did you have getting it to Canada. I am looking at a partially completed kit from the USA. Any help about the customs and the inspections from MD RA would be appreciated. Thanks
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:01 AM
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Default VS "done" as far as Canada allows

November 4: riveted the VS skin to the skeleton. I wrapped the tungsten bucking bar in hockey tape to try to keep the scuffing to a minimum. Got it all completed in one session. All but the front two rivets on the VS-706 tip rib. There?s no room to get a squeezer or bucking bar in there, so it looks like I?ll have to fabricate something to be able to get those last two done.



And the rear spar is clecoed into place for now. Because Canada requires a pre-closing inspection, no parts of the structure can be enclosed beforehand. So I?ll have to leave the VS (among other parts) incomplete until I get enough done to have the inspector come out. This would probably include the VS, HS, possibly elevators and rudder, wing bottom skins and the bottom of the fuselage under the floor panels.





Some blue masking tape on the flush set makes quite a difference in reducing marring. I got about 20 rivets out of one piece of tape.

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Old 11-05-2019, 09:26 AM
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Your level of attention to detail is going to serve you very well throughout this build. Looking terrific so far.

BTW if your MD-RA inspector is reasonably local, it can be quite worthwhile to have your inspector pop in for a progress inspection if you are ready to close up the tail pieces. That way you can get sign-off on those items, finish them and have the satisfaction of having fully finished parts that will be ready to hang on the airplane. I know MD-RA charges for mileage, but if your inspector is close it might be worthwhile to pay him the going rate for a quick visit.
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Old 11-16-2019, 03:10 PM
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Your level of attention to detail is going to serve you very well throughout this build. Looking terrific so far.

BTW if your MD-RA inspector is reasonably local, it can be quite worthwhile to have your inspector pop in for a progress inspection if you are ready to close up the tail pieces. That way you can get sign-off on those items, finish them and have the satisfaction of having fully finished parts that will be ready to hang on the airplane. I know MD-RA charges for mileage, but if your inspector is close it might be worthwhile to pay him the going rate for a quick visit.
Thanks for the feedback! Unfortunately he's a couple of hours away.
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Old 11-16-2019, 03:16 PM
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Default HS Done

At least as far as I can go until the pre-closing inspection:

November 9-16: After clecoing in the 905 nose ribs, I riveted them into place. Then the completed front spar/interspar assembly was put into place and clecoed in. Skipping every other hole, I still managed to run out of silver 3/32″ clecoes. I ended up working from one side to the other, moving clecoes to the other side as I completed a section.





Once things were clecoed into place, I began riveting the skins to the flanges of the front spar, then riveting the skins to the interspar ribs up to the stringers. Then the skin was riveted to the stringers on each side, then the remaining ribs were riveted to the skins. I used the tungsten bucking bar and flush set on the rivets that I couldn’t reach with the squeezer.

I had to drill out a couple of rivets whose shop heads were overdriven and flattened out. And looking back, I should have started riveting the skin on the bottom side of the HS, as the first part of the rivets set resulted in some skin “lumpiness” that I’m not too pleased with. The second side turned out better once I had more practice.

I did finally get in contact with my assigned MD-RA inspector, who informed me that every rivet must be visible in response to my question of how far could I assemble. So again, I will leave the rear spar clecoed into place, and the two inboard HS-905 nose ribs will be left out to allow a clear view of rivets in the front of the horizontal stab. So for now, I’ve put the partially completed assembly on the shelf, but will finish the front spar to nose rib blind rivets once I pick up my swivel nose rivet puller I ordered from Aircraft Tool. There is simply no room for a regular rivet puller when trying to pull those dozen rivets.

On to the elevator next. I will be travelling to Colorado for work starting tomorrow, so I'll be packing the first batch of elevator parts, some sandpaper and my deburring tools to work on in the hotel. No sense wasting downtime in a hotel.





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