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Old 09-12-2023, 04:25 PM
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Default Dynamic Balancing Rotax 912

I've had the same leaking radiator issue as many others with the Rotax 912iS and am trying to eliminate any and all potential causes....one of which is possible propeller vibration.

I thought I had a location lined up to balance the prop on my -12iS but then he just backed out of performing the dynamic balance over concerns that the engine and the propeller turn at different speeds and that because of the gearbox he wouldn't have holes on the flywheel to place balancing weight.

Has anyone actually had their propeller dynamic balanced on the Rotax 912 powerplant?

If so, where were the weights placed?

My thought is that a hole could be drilled in the spinner backplate and a bolt with washers and a lock nut be installed for the balancing weight in the location identified by the dynamic balancer. Is this method not a possibility?
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Old 09-12-2023, 04:31 PM
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I've had the same leaking radiator issue as many others with the Rotax 912iS and am trying to eliminate any and all potential causes....one of which is possible propeller vibration.

I thought I had a location lined up to balance the prop on my -12iS but then he just backed out of performing the dynamic balance over concerns that the engine and the propeller turn at different speeds and that because of the gearbox he wouldn't have holes on the flywheel to place balancing weight.

Has anyone actually had their propeller dynamic balanced on the Rotax 912 powerplant?

If so, where were the weights placed?

My thought is that a hole could be drilled in the spinner backplate and a bolt with washers and a lock nut be installed for the balancing weight in the location identified by the dynamic balancer. Is this method not a possibility?
Yes, it is, and I have done lots of them that way and many many owners have had it done as well.
To be blunt, if the person you contracted gave you the response they did, you are probably better off having it done by someone else.

I think all balancing units come with instructions prescribing a procedure for adding balance weights to the aft spinner bulkhead. That is the procedure that is used on a Rotax 912.
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Old 09-12-2023, 04:50 PM
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If you don’t have them, here are the DynaVibe Rotax-specific balancing instructions.
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Old 09-12-2023, 05:02 PM
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To be blunt, if the person you contracted gave you the response they did, you are probably better off having it done by someone else.
My first thought, too. Thanks for confirming.


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If you don’t have them, here are the DynaVibe Rotax-specific balancing instructions.
Thank you! Is it possible to rent a DynaVibe anywhere? I'm thinking it my be best to just do it myself.
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Old 09-12-2023, 05:13 PM
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Here’s one place you can rent one.

https://backcountryaircraft.com/prod...-prop-balancer
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My first thought, too. Thanks for confirming.




Thank you! Is it possible to rent a DynaVibe anywhere? I'm thinking it my be best to just do it myself.
Standby, you're probably in luck. I don't want to speak for anyone else but there is a solution to this that circulates the RV-12 community thanks to a builder.
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Old 09-12-2023, 06:49 PM
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Amadeus, I have used the DynaVibe Classic very successfully on our legacy RV-12. If you decide to rent or buy one there are some things to consider. It is the least sophisticated DynaVibe balancer so I suggest you go to the Web and download the users manual. I found that there were things that needed to be done before you can actually use it. You can PM me and I'll get back to you with more specific observations.
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Old 09-12-2023, 09:41 PM
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Yes Jayson/Nate!

I'm running a special on my Dynavibe now .. thanks to a lot of $100 donations in the past.. it has paid for itself and is now "owned" by the RV-12 community.

It is currently in Alabama with GatorsR1. He's done with it and can send it to you when you're ready for it. You can use it and hold on to it until the next builder asks for it.. you just pay for the shipping to him. Usually you will want to have an assortment of AN3 bolts (shorter sizes), and a bunch of washers (the thick and thin types), and an AN365 nut (maybe a AN364 too) on hand so you're not waiting for an Aircraft Spruce shipment while you have the unit.

Just drop me a PM if you want it.
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Make sure your carbs have been sync'd first.
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Old 09-21-2023, 06:55 AM
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At what RPM should the balancing be performed?

I assumed that since the engine spends more running time at cruise, about 5000 RPM, propeller speed 2076 RPM, that is where it should be measured and corrected. In the DynaVibe user manual there is scribbling and calculations at 500 RPM. I'm confused.
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