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Old 04-23-2022, 08:09 AM
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side question... how stable is the RV-12 in the bumps...is it a decent IFR platform?
Published Wing loading is 10.4 pounds per SF

basically the same if not a little worse than a Cessna 152 at 10.5 pounds per SF. Its been a long while since I last flew a 150 or 152, but I recall them giving a noticeably rougher ride than even a 172.

and since clouds usually bring bumps......

Any reports from anyone with recent time in a 150/152 and an RV-12? How would you say they compare?
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Old 04-23-2022, 09:57 AM
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The electrical setup: The PC680 was replaced with two EarthX batteries mounted behind the baggage bulkhead. A B&C pad mounted alternator was added to a new and separate 30 amp buss. The stock electrical system had minor modifications to share the loads between the two electrical buses.
Assuming the OP installs the 912iS, modifying the electrical system may not be necessary.

He will already have the EarthX ETX900 and the 912iS has two generators. The B generator which powers the main bus is 400W.

Now, with everything on (dual screens, autopilot, dual landing lights, strobes) I am using 11-12 amps. So there is a lot of excess capacity.
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Old 04-23-2022, 12:02 PM
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Bit off topic but a couple of questions:
1. How well can you read the iPad in that location (thinking of the same location on my -7)
2. I notice you have the ram mount, do you have a screen protector on the iPad? On my new ram mount (iPad Mini 6) the roller presses on the edge of the screen protector (glass) and I am concerned it will crack it.
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I have no issues with reading or operating the iPad mini at that location other than seeing ADS-B targets on Foreflight (more of a color contrast issue on the chart). I have also tried my iPad Pro in the same location and it's just a bit too large with the angled mount. I have a knee holder for the Pro, but usually do not use it. I have a Spigen GLAS screen protector on my mini 4 and the roller does not seem to be a problem.

I did modify the RAM mount to get cooling air to the back of the iPad from the two 40x40mm fans on the backside.

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Old 04-25-2022, 01:45 PM
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I am assisting on an RV-12 with 912ULS. This weekend I flew it in some moderate mid-day turbulence and I can say it is affected much more than my RV-6A. The RV-12 I was flying has a Dynon Flightdek 180 with AP and the AP had trouble keeping up with the turbulence. I ended up turning off AP and hand flying.

I personally would NOT fly an RV-12 in IMC unless I was just going through a thin marine layer. Even then I would have to feel very comfortable I understood the weather at that moment in time (and we know it changes). The plane is too light and moderately powered for IMC IMHO.
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Old 04-25-2022, 06:58 PM
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I am assisting on an RV-12 with 912ULS. This weekend I flew it in some moderate mid-day turbulence and I can say it is affected much more than my RV-6A. The RV-12 I was flying has a Dynon Flightdek 180 with AP and the AP had trouble keeping up with the turbulence. I ended up turning off AP and hand flying.

I personally would NOT fly an RV-12 in IMC unless I was just going through a thin marine layer. Even then I would have to feel very comfortable I understood the weather at that moment in time (and we know it changes). The plane is too light and moderately powered for IMC IMHO.
I was afraid of that....thanks for the report
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Old 10-12-2022, 06:36 AM
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I was just revisiting this thread, doing searches trying to get a feel for how many folks actually take their RV-12 into IMC

I'm a rusty pilot with IR. Daydreaming of a "retirement project". Don't know that I'll ever pursue getting instrument current again, but maybe.... really looking more at it trying to get a read on the capabilities of teh RV-12.

Looking at this post.

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A G5 would make a nice backup but there is no place to put it. My panel is cut for a SV-D700 on the right side, however I prefer the iPAD mini where it is at.

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yeah I was thinking you could put a G5 behind that ipad if you really wanted one...in place of the D700 that you don't want anyway.... anyway,nnice panel as it is!
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I am placing an order for the GPS 175 and GAD 29 on Monday. I finally found an avionics A&P that will perform the install and the 200' of morning fog will no longer keep me grounded waiting for the sun to burn it off.

(Dual G3X E-LSA avionics package)
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Old 11-03-2022, 07:05 PM
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side question... how stable is the RV-12 in the bumps...is it a decent IFR platform?
Published Wing loading is 10.4 pounds per SF
Not a direct answer, but my RV-9A is not a good IFR platform. It likes to wave a wing at every gust, and does this in the pattern, too. I find that I need to maintain proficiency both hand flying and also when flying with full automation.

What IFR is good for in the RV-9A is not having to worry about cloud clearance rules like you do VFR. Also, I never fly through a cloud that I haven't assessed visually before entry. FIS-B (ADS-B upload) is helpful but only as supporting information.

A good rule from a test pilot friend is to not fly above an overcast less than 1,000 feet. That way, if the engine goes poop, you've got a screaming chance of finding somewhere soft.

And it is legal to get training and even do check rides for Instrument in an equipped but not certified LSA as long as you don't go actual IMC. That was on the recent Flight Instructor Refresher Clinic.
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And it is legal to get training and even do check rides for Instrument in an equipped but not certified LSA as long as you don't go actual IMC. That was on the recent Flight Instructor Refresher Clinic.
There are competing views on this.
The wording on my airworthiness certificate states otherwise:

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Old 11-03-2022, 07:48 PM
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There are competing views on this.
Competing views on the FARs? Can't claim to be surprised. There was at least one egregious error on the recent FIRC. And often, the "correct" answer depends on the local FSDO, regardless of Washington.
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