Anyone want to rehash oil filters?

[Pilot135pd]

Originally Posted by Walt

Personally I can't imagine why anyone would go thru all the trouble to convert an auto filter when the total saving is probably less than $10

Champion $28.50 plus shipping
Tempest $23.50 plus shipping
WIX 51515 $8.09 at my local O’Reilly or Napa or Advance Auto or ......

My engine has been using the WIX 51515 for over 450 hours and no safety wire. It also doesn’t use a nipple so it changes just as easy as any aviation filter.

[Discus2b]

I found this thread to be quite interesting. From a informational and human interest point. While I do not care to do the Science, I enjoy reading about the Science. I then apply that Science to benefit me as I deem fit.
The part of the thread where safety clashes with cost (2018) , always a good debate to have, fails to include a valuable part.
We have to remember that many in this group are Scientists doing research work. They do it to discover, to share. Saving a dollar is always fun, but I don?t think the driving force.
E mags would be another example. A lot of damaged cylinders, soiled underwear, and maybe worse working that science. And yet it continues.

To all of you....Experimentalogist...I salute you.

R

[Pilot135pd]

Originally Posted by RV8JD

It's interesting to note that Robinson Helicopter does not require the safety wiring of the Lycoming engine oil filter per their Service Letter shown below:

https://robinsonheli.com/wp-content/...2/r44_sl45.pdf

SUBJECT: Deleted Safety Wire

"BACKGROUND: Safety wire and safety wire provisions have been deleted from various installations and parts. Deleting safety wire reduces maintenance cost and decreases the potential for safety wire-related FOD. This letter provides guidance for installing parts with or without safety wire provisions."

...

"? Lycoming engines: Oil filters and D723-1 adapter assemblies with or without safety wire provisions do not require safety wire. Installation instructions are on the oil filter."

I used to own an R-22 Mariner and if that vibration doesn't loosen an oil filter then my smooth RV-8 never will

[swjohnsey]

There is now Wix 51515XP same size better filter material.

[rongawer]

If you call K&P engineering and tell them that you want a filter for an experimental aircraft, they will sell you one. If you want to order one online, then go to http://usaoilfilters.com and buy these components:
Housing: C4, if you want the 1" nut and safety wire holes, C3 if you just want a standard housing.

Filter: FE-15 (3/4-16 female thread)

Spring: RS1 (this is the retaining spring that goes in the housing, and then the filter)

Quad Ring: QR2 (this is the reusable, replaceable o-ring)

It's not inexpensive, but flows very well and maintains consistent filtering throughout the entire oil change cycle. I have several of these, on each of my vehicle and aircraft engines. Very high quality.

[gasman]

Or just purchase this.... https://usaoilfilters.com/product/s15/ and save $21.00 and it includes the cup wrench.

[erich weaver]

Another thread on the permanent oil filter is here:

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...d.php?t=171973

If you use the Tempest 48108-2 filters you need the C4 filter housing and the S15 filter

[rongawer]

Originally Posted by gasman

Or just purchase this.... https://usaoilfilters.com/product/s15/ and save $21.00 and it includes the cup wrench.

True, but doesn't include the really cool 1" nut and safety wire holes in a top flange...

[gmcjetpilot]

Engines "oil filter" in the day came with a metal screen...

[rocketbob]

Originally Posted by gmcjetpilot

Engines "oil filter" in the day came with a metal screen...

Screens are perfectly fine. In fact micron rating is the same as certified paper filters, 40 micron.