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Old 02-08-2021, 08:08 PM
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Default Hotel Whiskey ER Tank Quality Issues

I really hate posting negative experiences but in thinking about this for a few days I decided that if I was considering buy a set of ER tanks I would want to know my experience.

I wrote a long blog post with a number of pictures for those that are interested in detailed information. http://www.strikhedonia.com/hotel-wh...er-fuel-tanks/

The bullet points:
1. I have talked to two other builders who had poor quality tanks - one was shipped a second set of replacement tanks
2. Troy (owner of Hotel Whiskey) admitted his welder that made the first set of tanks was not good and he rushed them out because they were so late shipping to me.
3. I had three welders and a welding instructor look at the first set of tanks and they uniformly said they were not acceptable. The instructor used them in her class to illustrate what not to do.
4. Troy sent me a second set of tanks that were evidently from a new welder. These tanks were marginally better. But the instructor and welders I know told me they were still unacceptable quality for commercial welding.
5. I intend to complete my phase 1 and then pay a local welder to build new tanks for me.
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:38 PM
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Had a look at those photos....how did those ever get shipped?

I wonder if it was their first time welding?
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Old 02-08-2021, 08:52 PM
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This is unfortunate to hear as I was planning on ordering said tanks. I may have to reconsider. I am not aware of any other providers of extended range tanks for a 10. Is that accurate?
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:05 PM
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You are correct, they are the only commercial option.

If I had to do it again I would hire a local welder to make the tanks for me. The mounting brackets (the tube bracket is provided and you have to fabricate the three tip brackets) and facet pumps are not difficult to build/acquire.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:11 PM
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As a welder, I take offense to you calling that welding, and the person that did it a welder! I am dumbfounded that a company would ship any product like that, let alone an aviation company. I am at a loss of words...
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:12 PM
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Thanks, I am a ways away from needing them but I will take a serious look at hiring a local welder when the time comes. If you happen to find a local welder to fix your tanks, they may be able to get my business too. I am in the Twin Cities also.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:33 PM
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Has anybody ever thought of using the same basic tank building technique as the main wing tanks for AUX tanks?

Bend some sheet aluminum, rivets and proseal.

Make a hex-tube instead of a round tube for simplicity.......
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:00 AM
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Default Wow.........

I'll echo disappointment. I plan to install the HW ER tank bungs for later retrofit, someday. But I'll definitely be sure these issues are addressed before ordering. I'm sure they will be - but man, how those got sent out.....
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:00 AM
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The welds on my tanks looked NOTHING like that, but I got them like 8 years ago...
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Old 02-09-2021, 08:19 AM
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And to think that someone once told me that Stevie Wonder could weld.

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