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Old 11-11-2020, 11:43 AM
agent4573 agent4573 is offline
 
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Default Andair

The product looks good and should hopefully last. The business itself was horrible to deal with. Hopefully I never need replacement parts or a rebuild or I'll be stuck on the ground for months. This is currently the only company making a valve that supports a high flow full return type fuel system, so your stuck with them if you want to run SDS or other automotive style EFI systems. My experience is detailed below.

July 24 - Order placed.
July 27 - Order acknowledged with 6 week lead time estimate.
September 29 - Emailed for update, no response.
October 7 - Emailed for update, no response.
October 15 - International phone call on Thursday. Told it would be built Monday and shipped by end of the next week.
November 5 - order actually ships.
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Old 11-11-2020, 02:44 PM
Peter Costick Peter Costick is offline
 
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I have dealt with Andair directly on several occasions and have always received good service and great products, and I really couldn't be more distant from them.

I know UK is struggling with Covid at the moment and I believe have been going in and out of lock down throughout the year. It's no secret that Andair is a small family company and their email response times can be variable, but nowadays a phone call even to the other side of the world is an easy option.

I have always found their products to be good quality.
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:09 AM
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I sent them an email with a few questions and they responded within a day. I bought the parts from Van's and Aircraft Spruce to avoid slow international shipping, but I did find they were quick to give me the answers I needed.
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:32 AM
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I sent them an email two weeks ago asking about the elastomers that they use in their valves and it has been dead quiet. Trying to verify the compatibility with 10% ethanol fuels.

Does anyone know if they use Viton for their O-rings?
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:56 AM
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At least the fuel filter o-ring is viton 75. Donít know about anything else.
BTW- I have called Andair several times in the past and always had a friendly conversation and received a prompt response to my requests.
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Old 12-17-2020, 04:47 PM
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Pile on to my experience with Andair. I ordered some replacement AN fittings to go with the TS Flightlines fuel hoses and just installed them today (Needed some 90 degree fittings and I ordered all straight fittings originally). It really irks me that the replacement fittings get shipped with allen head bolts while the original valve gets assembled with T10 torx fasteners. Its currently assembled, but now I have to order additional parts from spruce just so all the hardware from a single supplier matches. It might be nit-picking, but its seriously frustrating.
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Old 12-18-2020, 01:40 AM
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On my RV14A the pump was working but noisy from the beginning.
During my last annual in October I sent the pump to Andair, and they upgrade it to the latest version at no charge.
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Old 12-18-2020, 06:25 AM
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I have found Andair excellent to deal with, responsive and helpful. Bought a gascolator years ago, recently wanted to swap the fittings for different ones, contacted them, they replied promptly and offered to exchange the fittings, no charge.
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:51 AM
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Paul---not exactly a correct statement. Newton makes a V9 valve with a return for both tanks. We did and install for 1 client about a year ago on an RV10. Lots of changes vs. the Andair that we normally use. The port spacing is very close together, making it necessary to use their banjo fittings. We also had to change the tunnel to valve plumbing---and note that it was very tight due to the orientation of the banjos, and our connecting hose ends.
WE have NOT done any mockups for the RV7/9's or the RV14, but conceivebly can be done.

Spruce does stock the V9 valves, and it uses NPT/NPS fittings which give some extra variety of possible connection fittings.

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Old 12-18-2020, 04:14 PM
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Tom,

I've got no dog in this hunt. But AFAIK, the Newton valves only have 1/4" openings, not the 3/8" openings that SDS and EFII require for their high-flow purposes. Right, wrong, fake news, ... ?
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