Being that I live in the south and travel up north in the RV for some wintertime trips I was thinking of installing a second battery (removable) and inverter to run the engine preheater (sump pad) and possibly a battery warmer. Has anyone done this? I've killed the battery trying to start in cold weather with the plane outside overnight-- not fun. I appreciate everyone's thoughts on this.
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traveling engine preheater
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Geico266
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There is not enough energy in a battery to run a pre heater long enough to do any good in winter. Your best bet is to pay $ for a heated hanger, or have the linesman pre heat the engine for you. Usually a charge for that, but well worth it. Most if not all FBO's in the frozen tundra have preheating equipment, or at the very leaset plug ins for your heaters.
OR! You could remove the oil and take it in side and keep it next to the fire place and keep it warm, then add it back before flying in the morning! Like they do in Alaska! Youbetcha!
One thing nice about flying in the cold, no bugs!
OR! You could remove the oil and take it in side and keep it next to the fire place and keep it warm, then add it back before flying in the morning! Like they do in Alaska! Youbetcha!
One thing nice about flying in the cold, no bugs!
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The AeroTherm heater
http://aerothermheaters.com/index.html
Take a look at this heater. Keep everything under the cowl nice and warm. I used one for two years soon and very satisfied.
Squeak
Indiana
RV7A
http://aerothermheaters.com/index.html
Take a look at this heater. Keep everything under the cowl nice and warm. I used one for two years soon and very satisfied.
Squeak
Indiana
RV7A
Canadian_JOY
Well Known Member
I guess what's really required is a description of "up north". How far north are ou really going? That ultimately will drive your total heat requirement. Up here in the "frozen tundra" called Canada, many of us carry cold-weather gear in the airplane - often the "sleeping bag" doubles as an engine cowl blanket. A preheater will do little to no good if you have nothing to hold the heat under the cowling.
As for pre-heaters, if you're going to be near electricity there is a large number of electrical heating options available. But if you're thinking about being anywhere that electricity isn't available (um, yeah, that would also mean no FBO!) then you'll need to start burning fossil fuels in order to make enough heat.
One of the slickest preheaters I've ever seen was made by the fella in the hangar next to mine. He took a sheet of plywood as a base, mounted a piece of residential ductwork to it, spaced a couple of inches above the base. In that couple of inches of vertical space he slid a high efficiency muffin fan (computer cooling fan) rated at nominal 12Vdc. Thus he had created a duct and a method of moving air through that duct. Above the fan, cut into the side of the duct are two wholes to accept the nozzles of two piezo-electrically-ignited propane torches - BernzoMatics, the kind that use 1lb propane cylinders. He installed a couple of bicycle water bottle holders to hold the propane torches in place (ain't it handy that a 1lb propane cylinder is about the same size as a water bottle!?!?!).
Preheating is accomplished by hooking a small gel cell battery to the fan, then lighting the two torches and sliding the whole heater rig into place under the engine cowling so the hot air blasts up through the cooling air exit area (keep in mind this was developed for something other than an RV - RV-specific adaptations would obviously have to be made). Warmup time is pretty short.
A word of warning though - ANY preheater which uses combustion MUST be monitored by a human 100% of the time that it's running. One doesn't want to preheat the engine by igniting the airplane or components thereof!
As for pre-heaters, if you're going to be near electricity there is a large number of electrical heating options available. But if you're thinking about being anywhere that electricity isn't available (um, yeah, that would also mean no FBO!) then you'll need to start burning fossil fuels in order to make enough heat.
One of the slickest preheaters I've ever seen was made by the fella in the hangar next to mine. He took a sheet of plywood as a base, mounted a piece of residential ductwork to it, spaced a couple of inches above the base. In that couple of inches of vertical space he slid a high efficiency muffin fan (computer cooling fan) rated at nominal 12Vdc. Thus he had created a duct and a method of moving air through that duct. Above the fan, cut into the side of the duct are two wholes to accept the nozzles of two piezo-electrically-ignited propane torches - BernzoMatics, the kind that use 1lb propane cylinders. He installed a couple of bicycle water bottle holders to hold the propane torches in place (ain't it handy that a 1lb propane cylinder is about the same size as a water bottle!?!?!).
Preheating is accomplished by hooking a small gel cell battery to the fan, then lighting the two torches and sliding the whole heater rig into place under the engine cowling so the hot air blasts up through the cooling air exit area (keep in mind this was developed for something other than an RV - RV-specific adaptations would obviously have to be made). Warmup time is pretty short.
A word of warning though - ANY preheater which uses combustion MUST be monitored by a human 100% of the time that it's running. One doesn't want to preheat the engine by igniting the airplane or components thereof!
