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Old 07-10-2015, 08:21 AM
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Roll sensitivity needs to be reduced a little. I would decrease the roll sensitivity, one number at a time, until that dampens out.

Easy fix.
Another way is to just wait until you are right on the magenta line and heading/tracking the right direction. This serves to dampen the abruptness of the roll servo trying to do what you want it to do (but it doesn't have the finesse of the pilot).

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Old 07-10-2015, 05:20 PM
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Default A/P knobs w/ Skyview Touch

Are the knobs and AP panel a ...
a) a nice addition to a Skyview Touch panel?
b) an unnecessary addition/expense to the Skyview Touch?
or c)?
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:02 PM
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Are the knobs and AP panel a ...
a) a nice addition to a Skyview Touch panel?
b) an unnecessary addition/expense to the Skyview Touch?
or c)?
it would depend to some degree how much you value the auto trim. The touch screen helps out with the issue of having only a single knob by allowing you to set the active mode for the knob simply by tapping the associated area on the screen (altimeter, heading, etc.).

I prefer physical buttons to touchscreen, but if I had the touchscreen I doubt if I would have installed the panels, if not for the autotrim.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:15 AM
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I have the D180 with the AP-74 panel. I really like the setup I navigate with WingX on an iPad mini. Sometimes in chop I find it difficult to use the touchscreen on it. Is that a problem for you guys with the touchscreen Skyview?
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:38 AM
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Are the knobs and AP panel a ...
a) a nice addition to a Skyview Touch panel?
b) an unnecessary addition/expense to the Skyview Touch?
or c)?
I bought an SLSA with touchscreen and both the the A/P panel and the Knobs panel so I've always used them all.

I like the Dynon combo of buttons and touch screen. I did a demo with Mitch in his SLSA which had the new Garmin G3X Touch. I really liked it but now having used the SkyView a lot I think the Garmin had more on-screen menus to work through.

I use the Knobs panel more than the A/P but then I don't use the A/P as much except on longer flights. I find I use the knobs panel a lot for heading bug and baro setting, not ever really for airspeed.
Once you've flown the a/p you can finesse it so that you don't have abrupt banks as it hunts for track or heading. The auto-trim feature is nice. Before it would indicate a need for trim up/down and if you did nothing it would provide a voice alert to do it. Now it might announce a need for trim but then it just does it. Again giving the a/p a plane in trim avoids workload and abruptness. Maintaining a fairly constant power setting helps the a/p do it's job too. I mostly use the a/p in cruise and haven't used the vertical modes much at all. Much easier to just fly it myself. I use the a/p when I want to have a drink/sandwhich or in long cruise segments.

BTW you have to enable and calibrate SkyView to make auto-trim work. Once you know where it's found it's straightforward to do.

The a/p panel is nice and easy to use.

Dynon offer both panels in vertical or horizontal modes. I mention this because I asked for the horizontal to make better use of the panel space but I have an SLSA so it goes where Vans say it goes. No problem for me but if you're a builder and want this and are still thinking your panel layout you might want to consider vertical/horizontal. The standard SLSA panel won't allow for other than vertical.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:40 AM
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I have the D180 with the AP-74 panel. I really like the setup I navigate with WingX on an iPad mini. Sometimes in chop I find it difficult to use the touchscreen on it. Is that a problem for you guys with the touchscreen Skyview?
The Dynon ad said something about touch when you wanted and buttons in turbulence and that's about right although I just steady my hand in bumps and use the touch screen.

I have more trouble with my 'older guy fat fingers' than real bumpy air using the touchscreen
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Old 07-11-2015, 06:27 PM
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Yep, Top Cat, I am all too familiar with fat fingering!😁

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Old 07-20-2015, 09:13 AM
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Are the knobs and AP panel a ...
a) a nice addition to a Skyview Touch panel?
b) an unnecessary addition/expense to the Skyview Touch?
or c)?
I like them. Especially the ability to quickly change altimeter settings on both panels, headings, etc. A must if you have two panels. I think they will also save wear and tear on your SV joysticks, etc.

I can quickly set an altitude and mode change for VS or IAS climb and be back to flying/observing.

I agree with Dave that the auto trim itself is a pretty nice feature....although when the trim up/down indicator comes on I have to force myself to let the plane do it.
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Old 07-20-2015, 04:10 PM
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Are the knobs and AP panel a ...
a) a nice addition to a Skyview Touch panel?
b) an unnecessary addition/expense to the Skyview Touch?
or c)?
Neither is absolutely necessary. Both are a very nice addition. With a single screen, especially if it isn't a touch screen, the knob panel is a huge benefit. If a new plane, the A/P panel is great for wiring up your trims, and the auto trim function is fantastic.

Neither is unnecessary or a waste of money/time.
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:42 AM
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Default Learning Autopilot Knobology

I have a dual screen Dynon Touch Screen with the Knobs Panel I'm just learning and haven't figured it out. Since I have dual screens, it is automatically set for expert. I don't have much experience with autopilots to start so I watched one of the Dynon Skyview training videos but still couldn't really see the knobology. Every time I try flying with it I end up disconnecting it because of an unanticipated result.

I could use suggestions on how to learn the using the Knobs Panel. Is there a video or booklet just on the Knobs Panel?
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