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06-26-2015, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Harrisburg, Pa
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Originally Posted by jthocker
2 G3X touch (10in) 650 lots of IFR and I never even pull the iPad out in flight.
I do use the iPad with Garmin pilot for preflight and flight plan filing though.
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Same here. Use my iPad all the time out of the cockpit. Almost never remove it from my flight bag in the cockpit. Really the only time I use it in flight is if I'm planning on hitting an unexpected stop, I like to look at the AFD. My Skyview has most of the same info, but I just like looking at the actual AFD.
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06-26-2015, 07:20 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Edgewater, FL. KSFB
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There is now way that you will pull it out of the bag with the panel you are building. You will already have that info on the efis.
I use one for flight planning but it stays in the flight bag during flight. In two years it has not come out of the bag. When I flew a c172 I kept it on my lap.
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06-26-2015, 07:54 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Tampa (BKV)
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I have a pocket for the iPad, but it never leaves it. With G3X and GTN650....the iPad is superfluous....after you learn how to use your panel of course. I do love the iPad and foreflight in my -8, but the panel is just too good to need it.
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06-26-2015, 08:07 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Annapolis MD
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In my RV-8A, the cockpit is so bright that I find the iPad almost unusable. When I'm PNF in someone else's plane that doesn't have a bubble canopy, I use the iPad (iPhone 6+ now,) to support the PF (but mostly to mess around.) When I finally get my plane back in the air, it will have 2 G3X'es so I don't really see the need to use the iPad/iPhone at all in flight. I've also let my ForeFlight subscription lapse in favor of Garmin Pilot for planning and emergency backup.
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06-26-2015, 08:40 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: San Diego, Ca
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Thanks Guys
Thanks for all the input
Once again. Valuable input and it brought to light some things I hadn't thought about.
Nothing like hearing it straight from the people out there doing it.
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06-27-2015, 05:46 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: houston, texas
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Another thought..
Sorry, I just got in on this topic. We are putting together a G3x, system with a 10.6" touch. We have friends that use their I-pads and like to have them as back-ups and planning tools, but yes they seam to be left on the side line if the flight goes as planned. We have been looking at this same idea of putting an I-pad Minnie in the set-up or flight bag, but. We found these new I-phone 6 pluses. We are now looking at changing the game plan. The plan would be to up-date to the I-phone 6 plus and skip the Minnie pad. Most people have I-phones now days and having both a Minnie and the phone just doubles your up-front cost. If you can get the use you need out of the one item, you may be money ahead and you need the phone anyway. Just food for thought. Yours as always.. R.E.A. III #80888
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06-27-2015, 06:39 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Snoqualmie, wa
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I have a slightly different take on the issue. I have a single G3X touch and a GRT Mini-X both on my side of the panel. I also use my iPad mini frequently when in IFR flight. One of my very few gripes about the G3X is that when in split screen mode you can not adjust the course (CDI) so you are pretty much forced to fly in fullscreen mode most of the time. Anything on the right side of the panel is too far away for me to see details so I keep my iPad mini on a Ram mount just above my left knee (actually attached to the vertical cap on the spar uprights). Here I can load approach plates, check lists, charts, maps, runway information, whatever and have it easily available. I don't like it on my left knee because it requires too much head movement (which causes disorientation in IMC) and it tends to interfere with my stick movement (minimal). I do have a notepad on my kneeboard on the right knee (for taking notes) so space on my lap is limited.
In VFR flight I rarely use my iPad as everything I need is on the EFIS.
Just my two cents....
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06-27-2015, 06:47 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
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Hello Darin,
Just one small correction to your post. You certainly can adjust the HSI course selection on your GDU 46x display when it is in split-screen mode - simply touch the CRS data field.
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06-27-2015, 08:53 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Locust Grove, GA
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With the form factor of iPads, tablets, and phones changing every couple years, I would not want to "dock" my device in the panel with a permanent or semi-permanent mount. Technology is changing too fast. In a few years, there will be another form factor to deal with.
In my RV-10, I have the AeroSport center console, with just a few switches. This leaves me with a great place for a suction cup RAM mount for my iPad mini. This gives me good flexibility to have it mounted, but not permanently.
I use the iPad mini coupled with the GDL-39. I use the Garmin Pilot software for approach plates or for weather (it's faster than trying to do it through the G3X (non-touch). The traffic page in Garmin Pilot is probably better than the G3X, as I can select a target on the iPad, see the heading, pressure altitude, and closure rate.
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06-27-2015, 09:15 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mendon South Carolina
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What I think is irrelevant.
You need to ask yourself; what does the I pad do that you need "in flight"?
What does the I pad do that the" in panel" systems do not do?
You need to answer these questions in the context of your personal flying habits, needs, wants, and desires.
You have a lot of stuff in the panel and becoming proficient in its use during IMC is a difficult task to begin with and requires frequent recurrent training and use.
Throw in the added mental tasking of an I pad on top of a G3X GTN 650 and your backup EFIS, while doing 160 knots in turbulence, and you could suffer mental overload at the worst possible moment.
You can have too much of a good thing. During high mental workloads there is a lot to be said for keeping it simple.
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