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Old 05-27-2015, 11:12 PM
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Default Experimental aircraft and flight training

Can someone give me the basic info on this? Meaning what are the rules and is it allowed and so on. I have heard conflicting info.
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Old 05-27-2015, 11:40 PM
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You can if

1- You own the aircraft and it is yourself getting trained
2- Can find an instructor happy to teach in one
3- Aircraft is capable of training required ie -NVFR/IFR etc etc
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:11 AM
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You can if

1- You own the aircraft and it is yourself getting trained
2- Can find an instructor happy to teach in one
3- Aircraft is capable of training required ie -NVFR/IFR etc etc
1. Strictly speaking you do not have to own the aircraft, but it is illegal to pay (rent) for its use. A friend could lend you his plane for free; that would take a really good friend!
4. In the US the designated examiners have the option to decline to fly in an EAB, but that's usually not an issue.
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:41 AM
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You can if

1- You own the aircraft and it is yourself getting trained
2- Can find an instructor happy to teach in one
3- Aircraft is capable of training required ie -NVFR/IFR etc etc
I think that these are the rules in Australia. The USA is slightly different in that you don't need to be the owner but no money can change hands for the plane hire.
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Old 05-28-2015, 04:25 AM
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You can pay the CFI for their time but you can't rent the airplane. (Just clarifying the comments above.)

In the US there is no IFR or night requirement for the plane. It just means you can't train at night or in IFR conditions without that equipment. (The plane I trained for my PPL in was night equipped not set up for IFR flight. Yet, we did a lot of hood work in that little 152.)

Most (all?) CFI's will want dual controls, including rudder peddles, brakes and engine controls. In some tandem aircraft this can be a challenge.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:26 AM
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my .02. Thats one of the reasons I decided to build a RV7. I could get my license in it, and it would already be familiar. Several CFI's have already told me they would instruct in the plane. Having flown (alot) in Lee's Rocket and Dennis' 8, I'm pretty familiar with some of the speeds. Flew some in a Valor A22 (LSA).
So---when the time comes, either I can continue to learn in the 7, or fly off time myself.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:26 AM
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Welcome Brian.
It looks like you're interested in the 9. It should be a nice training platform.
I would recommend a ride to be sure.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:27 AM
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Default There's a L.O.D.A.

If you're already a licensed pilot, you can get transition training from one of several instructors who own RV's and have a Letter Of Deviation Authority. This allows them to charge for the use of the airplane and their time.

Best,
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:54 AM
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Thanks for explaining everything guys. Yeah wirejock I think the 9a seems to fit the bill best for what I am looking for. Though the 14 seems like it might as well. Just like the characteristics more of the 9 still though. I actually have always wanted to build a kit plane,for as long as I can remember anyways. I even worked for glasair for quite a while to become familiar with more of it,lol. Love the sportsman but they are insanely expensive.
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:06 AM
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Ts flightlines yeah I was thinking of doing something similar obviously. My cfi will definitely instruct me in it. He loves RVs. I just need to decide if I want to wait until I am done building before getting my ppl. I am going to get my cfi. Which yes I know takes a lot to get there. So kind of thinking I will start my ppl while building. Not sure totally yet.
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