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Old 05-18-2015, 11:03 AM
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Hello all, I have been seeing builders get EAA inspectors to have a look at their build progress prior to sealing up HS's Wings ect.
Can anyone tell me what the legality is here and a schedule if needed

Does Canada have an EAA chapter?

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Old 05-18-2015, 12:48 PM
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:18 PM
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In Canada you must have the MDRA inspections done in order to get the Certificate of Airworthiness in order to fly a homebuilt. All the information on MDRA was in the previous post.
As for EAA, there are many chapters in Canada. We have one here in Nova Scotia so there should be tons of them in BC. There is no legality in having one of there tec.'s inspect your progress but it never hurts to have someone with experience have a look. It was just posted on here that a plane was flying for quite a few years with a gascolator plumbed wrong. This gascolator type had two out ports to accommodate various installations. The installer miss took the two ports for the in and out then plugged the correct "in" port on the back side. This aircraft was flying with in essence no gascolator. If the pilot used the gascolator for his main detection of water/ contaminants, they could have been in trouble. These are the types of things an EAA tec counselor should find or at least hopefully find. Once something is installed incorrectly it can take a disciplined eye to detect.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:25 PM
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MDRA inspections are a little different too. When you get assigned your inspector he or she will expect to see every rivet you set. This means you can not close in any surface till they approve it with a numbered sticker. I personally left the trailing edge of the rudder open, didn't rivet in the spars of the empenage pieces... I built all the way up until I was ready to close in the fuselage before I arranged my first inspection. Next will be the final. If you're ever in the lower mainland and have questions or want to check out a project just let me know.

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Old 05-20-2015, 06:08 PM
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Thanks everyone, i just filed my intent to build with md-ra and have gotten in touch with their office. Can control surfaces be sealed? so either an inspection for each major section open or complete emp, wings, fuse to 80% have inspection than continue?
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:08 PM
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If you're ever in the lower mainland and have questions or want to check out a project just let me know.

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Thanks Trevor! i just might take you up on that!
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:47 PM
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Thanks everyone, i just filed my intent to build with md-ra and have gotten in touch with their office. Can control surfaces be sealed? so either an inspection for each major section open or complete emp, wings, fuse to 80% have inspection than continue?
People have done it different ways. If you don't have good builder support from other local builders who can advise you, you may want to get inspections before closing each kit. That's one inspection for tail kit, one for wing kit, one for fuselage kit, then one for final.

But if you have good builder support from people who can advise you and let you know whether your work is good enough, then you may be comfortable building farther along before getting your first inspection. It's possible to get one inspection before closing everything, but I don't know how common that is for first-time builders.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:00 PM
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I did the wing and tail pre-close together, and just had the fuse pre-close done. Like Snowflake said, if you have good support do all the pre-closes together. Spend the $400 on one inspection vs $1200 on three.

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Old 05-20-2015, 07:21 PM
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I did the wing and tail pre-close together, and just had the fuse pre-close done. Like Snowflake said, if you have good support do all the pre-closes together. Spend the $400 on one inspection vs $1200 on three.

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Thanks Don makes sense, thats 3 tanks of fuel in the bank. I look forward to meeting the builders in the sea to sky corridor and picking their brain. I'm working on the practice pieces and toolbox as well as tooling up. waiting on my DRDT-2 and Pneumatic squeezer. when their done ill bring them to a meeting and have ppl take a look to see if I'm on the right track
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:28 AM
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Talking about fuel tank, be sure to talk to your inspector before to close the tank. I'v saw on this forum someone ou tell that you can totaly close the tank before inspection. This is what I do and finaly my inspector really didn't like that. He wanted to see the interior of the tank before I close it and seal everything. He first wanted that I open it. Imagine, all are sealed with Proseal... I said that it's nearly impossible to remove the sealed backplate with all this Proseal and I have a lot more chance to scrap the tank. Anyway, he can't see the rivets Inside the tank because they are all filled with a mushroom of Proseal... After some discussion, he accept the tank....
So, talk to your inpector about that and be sure of what he want...
Just my 2 cents !!
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