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05-09-2015, 11:52 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
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fixed pitch vs. constant speed
I am look at purchasing a RV-7 and it has a fixed pitch prop. I have low tail wheel time in a champ but lots of time in a RV-9A. Someone mentioned a CS prop is better because it will help you slow down the airplane and better for low TW time pilots.
I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on this.
Thanks.
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Charlotte, NC
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05-09-2015, 01:56 PM
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Location: Okanagan Valley BC, Canada
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You will get lots of opinions...
I have a -8 with a fixed pitch catto and slowing down to land is no problem.
My previous a/c was constant speed so the thing I find I have to watch is over-speeding on descent...
By the time you do some transition training for the t/wheel you will be used to it...
Also one less conrol to worry about...
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05-09-2015, 02:13 PM
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been here awhile
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockit
I am look at purchasing a RV-7 and it has a fixed pitch prop. I have low tail wheel time in a champ but lots of time in a RV-9A. Someone mentioned a CS prop is better because it will help you slow down the airplane and better for low TW time pilots.
I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on this.
Thanks.
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Yes, the membership has opinions about your question.....hundreds of them.
Not trying to blow off your inquiry, but the Search function of the forum will reward you with hours of reading about the various aspects of fixed and CS props.
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05-09-2015, 06:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Venice, Fl
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Originally Posted by Sam Buchanan
Yes, the membership has opinions about your question.....hundreds of them.
Not trying to blow off your inquiry, but the Search function of the forum will reward you with hours of reading about the various aspects of fixed and CS props.
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OK, here is one.
I didn't want the complexity, costs and weight associated with a constant speed prop. One caveat is that I live in Florida, fly over somewhat-lower-than-out-West mountains back and forth to Ohio, Georgia, etc.
I got 400'/minute in my Taylorcraft on a good day and found that fixed pitch RV-6 prop gave me 2000'/minute. If I lived in an area where big mountains were the predominate landscape I probably would have a different opinion.
I find no issue with slowing down. Just plan ahead.
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05-09-2015, 07:01 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Shreveport, LA
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Originally Posted by GLPalinkas
OK, here is one.
I didn't want the complexity, costs and weight associated with a constant speed prop. One caveat is that I live in Florida, fly over somewhat-lower-than-out-West mountains back and forth to Ohio, Georgia, etc.
I got 400'/minute in my Taylorcraft on a good day and found that fixed pitch RV-6 prop gave me 2000'/minute. If I lived in an area where big mountains were the predominate landscape I probably would have a different opinion.
I find no issue with slowing down. Just plan ahead.
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What he said. He nailed it for me, except replace Florida with Louisiana
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05-09-2015, 08:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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I live near lots of mountains with a -9 and fixed pitch. Was low time tailwheel when I finished it. Works just fine for flying or landing.
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Last edited by alpinelakespilot2000 : 05-09-2015 at 08:24 PM.
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05-09-2015, 09:01 PM
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ga
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The best
For an RV, a fixed pitch is the best lowest cost solution. Highly recommend a Catto. I had several of his props and they were great. Even have a new one on the wall. Can't bring myself to bolt this wonderful piece of art on my project.
However, My latest deal has a CS cause I like shifting gears rather than leaving it in first all the time, and my discresssionary income is not a hindering factor at this point in my life. Otherwise it would be a Catto.
Good luck on your search for the best prop!
Cj
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05-09-2015, 10:04 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Portland, OR
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No issues with FP
I had a similar dilemma when shopping for my RV, but as Ron said, by the time you do your transition training and get some time in the plane, you'll learn to slow it down. I can approach the field at 160 knts and easily slow down to 90-100 on the 45 and 80 (or slower if necessary) on downwind. You'll adjust quickly. I had 1 hr of TW time before doing my transition training with Mike Seager.
I've also had no issues with climb out, even when I had to go around at a field near Mt. Rainier in a narrow valley with a full load. Sure, a CS prop will give you better climb, but the FP climb is so good compared to most anything else, you still be very happy with it. In most circumstances, I rarely climb at Vx or Vy. A cruise climb at 140 knots is still better than most certified birds.
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RV7A QB kit -- sold and now flying in S. Africa
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05-09-2015, 10:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockit
I am look at purchasing a RV-7 and it has a fixed pitch prop. I have low tail wheel time in a champ but lots of time in a RV-9A. Someone mentioned a CS prop is better because it will help you slow down the airplane and better for low TW time pilots.
I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on this.
Thanks.
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I would not own an RV with a fixed pitch prop.
IF the price was right, yes I would buy one that is fixed pitch that could be changed to Constant Speed and would change over as soon as I got it in my hangar.
Over 20-years ago, Allen Tolle changed over his RV-4 from fixed to CS. He reported at many EAA meetings that he saved 1.5 Gallons per hour changing over. The prop paid for itself in fuel savings.
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05-09-2015, 10:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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A couple of thoughts for you:
Can a CS prop be added to the -7 you are looking at?
The nice thing about a CS prop is the Blue knob is all the way forward for both takeoff and landing. So just like your -9A, you only have to play with the throttle while you keep it straight on the runway.
Oh, the -7 is easier to handle on the ground than the Champ.
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