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Old 05-01-2015, 08:24 PM
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Default Congrats on first step.

To add to all fine points above...

-Don't penny pinch or get too worried about cutting hours. I learned in the L.A. Basin and it will take more hours than if you took lessons out of Bismarck, ND. The airspace, traffic, communications complexities will almost certainly put you 70+ hours. But, you will have the confidence to fly most everywhere.

-Get an airband scanner or listen to ATC online as much as you can. ATC communications can almost sound like a different language in the beginning. As I have always heard, if you can drive a stick shift car you can fly an airplane. It's the communications and navigation AND flying, happening at the same time, which brings the stakes up.

-Get rid of anything that will distract you now... Xbox, Motorcycles, Jet-skis, fancy cars, girlfriends... put em all on ebay for more money to put towards your flying. You can get all that stuff back later.

Once you land the plane knowing your instructor was hands off, you'll be hooked. Enjoy!
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:35 PM
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To add to all fine points above...

-Get rid of anything that will distract you now... Xbox, Motorcycles, Jet-skis, fancy cars, girlfriends... put em all on ebay for more money to put towards your flying. You can get all that stuff back later.
Best advice yet.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:41 PM
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One great technique is to find a buddy at about your same level and learn together. You can sit in on each other's ground lessons and even though it's not loggable, you can learn a ton riding in the back seat watching your buddie's lessons and vice versa. Then you can debrief together afterwards and motivate each other. There will be concepts that each of you will quickly grasp that can help the other see the light.

When I was actively instructing I always tried to pair students up and it always shaved at least 20% off their time needed to finish up. It also made for some lifelong friendships.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:44 PM
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Regarding the ground school materials, I think you should start with the FAA airplane flying handbook and pilots handbook of aeronautical knowledge. You can supplement those with other stuff like the king online videos which I found very helpful.
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Old 05-01-2015, 09:25 PM
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One little thing. Make absolutely SURE you can pass the third class medical BEFORE you attempt it. If you try and get denied, you're done flying pretty much anything that will get you from Point A to Point B. If you just don't get one, you can still fly with Sport Pilot privileges - think RV-12, which is no slouch of an airplane.

As others have noted, fly as often as you can. If I were in CA I'd budget $10K... I think I spent around $7K a couple of years ago, but I think it's a lot more expensive there.

An see if there's a flying club out there that will get you cheaper flight time. I did part of my training flying some pretty ratty rental Cherokees at about $100/hr., and finished up in a fairly nice 172 for about $85 an hour - and I had the keys to the hangar and could fly pretty much whenever I pleased. That's really nice.
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Old 05-01-2015, 09:28 PM
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Lean to fly by outside references first,attitude flying, I found myself trying to chase the instruments in the beginning, finally started to fly descent by looking outside. Chair flying greatly helped me with the flight manuevers.
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Old 05-02-2015, 12:26 AM
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Hey Robert,

Congratulations! You are going to love it. If Sunrise still has a Diamond DA-20, try to get your first flight in that.

Much great advice posted here by others. If you like, you can borrow my Sporty's pilot training course DVDs...a good overview of what to expect in a very easy to assimilate format. Give me a call, or drop by on a weeknight if you want to pick it up.

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Old 05-02-2015, 07:17 AM
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are there any other good books about flying?
The FAA has published the Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge. I used it extensively and found it to be a fantastic resource.

I actually used it more than any other publication I paid for.

It's a free download from this web link:

http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...ilot_handbook/

Here is what it covers:

Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge FAA-H-8083-25A

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Cover-Preface (PDF)
?Chapter 01: Introduction to Flying (PDF)
?Chapter 02: Aircraft Structure (PDF)
?Chapter 03: Principles of Flight (PDF)
?Chapter 04: Aerodynamics of Flight (PDF)
?Chapter 05: Flight Controls (PDF)
?Chapter 06: Aircraft Systems (PDF)
?Chapter 07: Flight Instruments (PDF)
?Chapter 08: Flight Manuals and Other Documents (PDF)
?Chapter 09: Weight and Balance (PDF)
?Chapter 10: Aircraft Performance (PDF)
?Chapter 11: Weather Theory (PDF)
?Chapter 12: Aviation Weather Services (PDF)
?Chapter 13: Airport Operations (PDF)
?Chapter 14: Airspace (PDF)
?Chapter 15: Navigation (PDF)
?Chapter 16: Aeromedical Factors (PDF)
?Chapter 17: Aeronautical Decision-Making (PDF)
Appendix 1, Runway Incursion Avoidance (PDF, 4 MB)
?Appendix-Glossary-Index (PDF)
The color illustrations are excellent. The text is very similar to what you will see on the written test questions.

I agree on what others said about the third class medical. That was my first step. I recommend you do that before spending a bunch of money.

I couldn't find a ground school in my area so I self studied and took flying lessons at the same time. Not optimal, at least not for me. I wish I could have gotten all the ground school knowledge prior to flying.

Good luck,
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Old 05-02-2015, 09:52 AM
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Good info in this thread!

How do you know if you need to fly under the sport pilot rules, flying LSA aircraft (use your drivers license as your medical instead of getting a 3rd class medical)? Are you on any meds? Do you have any medical conditions? If so, join the AOPA. Heck join them anyway, along with the EAA. The AOPA has a program which can tell you what the FAA thinks of your meds and medical conditions and what's required by the FAA for your to be able to get your medical and fly. Find that out BEFORE you go get your medical. If you fail your medical first, you can't just start flying with a driver's license for your medical. It can get ugly...

The LSA RV-12 has a cruise speed that's right around the Cessna 172's. True you can't put as much stuff in it as you can a 172, but you can still do a lot of traveling. All the other RV's will smoke an RV-12 in cruise speed, but they'll smoke the 172 also. Of course they can't do at 4 to 4.5 gallons of auto fuel an hour!

Training -

Fly everyday that you can. As has already been mentioned, the more frequently you fly, the less total hours it will take to get your license, therefore the less dollars it will take our of your pocket. Even if you are able to schedule everyday for flying, you won't be able too because of the weather or even just the wind blowing too hard for where you're at in skill level. Remember the 'Old' saying...'There are Old pilots and there are BOLD pilots (I should add Stupid pilots here as well...), but there are no OLD BOLD pilots!

Hang out at a couple of flight schools if you can. Talk to the other students, find out how often they fly, what they like about their instructor and what they don't like. Ask how many hours they have in training and over what period of time. Like everything else in life, not every personality is a good fit with your personality. It's important to find an instructor that fits you. Remember though, you're not necessarily trying to find the nicest CFI in the room.

While it may not be common, watch out for this...We have a local CFI is that is really a super nice person, but they are also known as the 'milk-er'. They are not really interested in getting you out the door as efficiently as they can. Why, because they make more money training you, than passing you. How can you tell? If you spend a lot of training sessions just going out and flying around with them in right seat. And don't do this to yourself! You may need to do that every now and then, just to enjoy the flight; to have fun and to remember what it is about flying that draws you passionately into looking up into the sky every time an airplane flies over. But every time you fly you need to be training and working on something. Training is hard work, just like training for a sport. You may not really have a lot of fun training until its all starting to click for you; until you start to become a pilot.

Join the EAA and the local chapter or at least go to their meetings. Talk to them find out what they've done, and who they go see for their reviews. Get some pointers, learn the lay of the land when it comes to training in your local area (and maybe even get a ride!).

Besides the Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge mentioned earlier, there's also available for free:
If you have a tablet you can save them off as a pdf and load them on!

There are DVD's on subjects like taking off, landing or entire courses put out by the likes of King Schools and Sporty's. I also have these converted and installed on my iPad.

The Plane

Consider buying a used plane for your training and beyond. Aircraft can be financed over a longer period of time (10 to 15 years), than a car. This can make a monthly plane payment cheaper than rental. There are down sides to this that you need to be aware of though. The biggie is maintenance. If something goes wrong with your plane, its your wallet it comes out of. Still, many people use this approach quite successfully. Research, research and then do some more research.

You can get into an older (sometimes much older) Cessna 172 or Piper 140-ish, that would make a good trainer for less than $200 - $300 a month. Look at the rental rates and you'll see that you can easily spend that in one week of aircraft rental. As many will tell you, there are a lot of other things to consider when purchasing an older aircraft, but research it and see if its an option for you.

If you do decide to look at buying there are owners groups that can help you. There are owners guides and buyers guides like the http://www.cessna.org/buyers-guide-172-excerpts.

Don't forget the experimental world when thinking of going this way, but check on insurance. Many times it would be difficult to get insurance on some aircraft with just a student pilots license. That goes for some commercially built aircraft as well.

Insurance

And speaking of insurance, make sure if you rent an aircraft you have renters insurance. There's always a deductible that has to be covered by someone in the event of a accident, even minor ones.

Its just plain/plane fun to fly!

This is a journey, a fun, loveable journey. You will never forget the first time you take off, in control of an aircraft. You will never forget your solo, your first cross-country or becoming a pilot. Enjoy the journey! You will never be the same again.

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Old 05-02-2015, 10:06 AM
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I have Microsoft Flight Simulator on my home computer and found this very helpful in practicing my last lessons or the upcoming ones.
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