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04-25-2015, 07:13 AM
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Have been happening over the years, some for the better and some for the worse. There are certainly more airplanes in HBC these days than there are on the line, except probably for Saturday when everyone flies down for the Day. MaryJane and her crew of volunteers in HBC really make it an enjoyable event, with hot meals every night and coffe and drinks for most of the day. It's really nice to be around family and friends during the airshow and be able to talk airplanes.
I've always hated that you can't be with your airplane during the airshow at SNF if parked on the show line. Once we found HBC, we don't even park on the line anymore. The only problem is that it is SO FAR away from the event. It's hard to spend time with new builders who don't even know there are a bunch of wonderful people and friends with fine examples of their airplanes on the OTHER side of the field.
Weather was certainly a factor Friday morning. Some fog banks moved in and it got downright dangerous for planes on the arrival. While listening and watching I really thought someone was going to get hurt before ATC FINALLY realized the Parker Arrival was IFR and they should shut it down. That call should have been made way earlier. When the field finally opened up Lake parker looked like a porcupine on the ADSB view.
Vic
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04-25-2015, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Pines, FL (based @ KCLW)
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I was there Thursday & Friday wearing my VAF hat & I saw many others.
Thursday morning arrivals were hampered by the 2 passing rain cells. I was placed right as I flew in between them. I had the runway all to myself.
Friday, I was in a hold around Lake Parker for 30 minutes before arriving due to IFR over KLAL. There were about 30 in hold & not accepting any more & turned them away. Although, I never did hear them be directed to the secondary hold at Lake Hancock.
These events would deter most from flying in. Locals would have driven in.
The HB(daily transient) was very light on Thursday but much better on Friday. I didn't get a count but there were probably more than 50 RVs. Don't know about HBC.
Both days the weather started out questionable but ended up a beautiful day.
That's Florida weather.
One thing I did notice, the frequency signage taxiing for departure should have been displayed much earlier & twice it was incorrect.
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04-25-2015, 07:36 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hilton Head Island
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Originally Posted by vic syracuse
Have been happening over the years, some for the better and some for the worse. There are certainly more airplanes in HBC these days than there are on the line, except probably for Saturday when everyone flies down for the Day. MaryJane and her crew of volunteers in HBC really make it an enjoyable event, with hot meals every night and coffe and drinks for most of the day. It's really nice to be around family and friends during the airshow and be able to talk airplanes.
I've always hated that you can't be with your airplane during the airshow at SNF if parked on the show line. Once we found HBC, we don't even park on the line anymore. The only problem is that it is SO FAR away from the event. It's hard to spend time with new builders who don't even know there are a bunch of wonderful people and friends with fine examples of their airplanes on the OTHER side of the field.
Weather was certainly a factor Friday morning. Some fog banks moved in and it got downright dangerous for planes on the arrival. While listening and watching I really thought someone was going to get hurt before ATC FINALLY realized the Parker Arrival was IFR and they should shut it down. That call should have been made way earlier. When the field finally opened up Lake parker looked like a porcupine on the ADSB view.
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I was lucky to be close so I didnt leave until I saw it come up to marginal VFR. Once I arrived in the area they shut down arrivals due to a disabled airplane on the runway (9L). They just told us to "Hold" , t since they didnt tell anyone where it was a free-for-all out there! It woukd have been nice to use the procedure and hold around lake hancock and lake parker...but...it was hold anywhere and in any pattern 😳. But, the controller was constanly talking and giving updates to everyone trying to keep everyone safe and calm. Some waited an hour to get in.
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04-25-2015, 09:14 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by Jaypratt
... After rereading the thread of others experiences after the Tornado, again, I do not think we will be back. Not worth the risk of being charged for things I could do myself.
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My plane made it through the tornado in 2011 with only a few scratches. They are now telling pilots they will be charged for damage to the environment due to fuel spillages. Looks like a cover the butt thing.
http://www.sun-n-fun.org/getdoc/b650...rocedures.aspx
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04-25-2015, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Largo, FL
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Something I heard
Wednesday --- as I walked into the HB area, about noon ---- A guy, coming out of the HB area, was asked by the security guard how his day was going --- His comment: "I wanted to see some experimentals, but nearly everything is an RV" -------
Not sure what one would expect, with over 9000 flying!
(By the way --- my VAF t-shirts are worn out ---- I just ordered (3) more from "littlemooseprints")
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04-25-2015, 02:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Warner Robins, GA
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I was in HBC from Wednesday until this morning. It was my 9th year flying in and I had as good a time as ever. Fortunately, I fly only 285 miles to get there so weather is not as big a factor for me.
I will keep attending SNF mostly because of the variety of airplanes and mainly because of the friends I meet, old and new. It is a snow ball effect of camaraderie that is really neat. Every year I make at least 2 or 3 new flying friends.
I never experienced anything negative, though the negative can always be found if you look hard enough.
No gripes here, I love SNF 
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04-25-2015, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bay Pines, FL (based @ KCLW)
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Originally Posted by bsacks05
I was in HBC from Wednesday until this morning. It was my 9th year flying in and I had as good a time as ever. Fortunately, I fly only 285 miles to get there so weather is not as big a factor for me.
I will keep attending SNF mostly because of the variety of airplanes and mainly because of the friends I meet, old and new. It is a snow ball effect of camaraderie that is really neat. Every year I make at least 2 or 3 new flying friends.
I never experienced anything negative, though the negative can always be found if you look hard enough.
No gripes here, I love SNF 
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Bruce,
I've been flying in on Thursday & Friday for years & leave after the airshow.
I keep missing out on all the HBC fun.
Next year, I will change it up & stay overnight in HBC.
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04-25-2015, 07:37 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Hilton Head Island
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It would be cool to have a poll to see how many of each type of RV went to SNF.
Wish I knew how to do it...
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04-25-2015, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hopkinsville, KY
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What's missing - - Showers!
Decent showers is what is missing! They had one small trailer with three stalls, each stall had one hook, no bench, no shelf. It was between HBC and the seaplane area. I decided to walk all the way down past the vintage area just inside the gate to the old block building at least there are about 6 stalls that have a bench and a hook at each one. It sure would be nice if they would build some like the Triple tree Flyin has. They have a lot less people and a lot more and better restrooms and showers. The floors in the stalls are even slotted so your never standing in water. Check out the pictures here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/bobbyhe...40546868732450
Other than that I had a good time, nice getting to talk RVs with Bruce Sacks.
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04-25-2015, 09:01 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by pierre smith
High prices, lack of that welcome feeling...etc.
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Sounds familiar. When I checked the prices to camp under my plane, probably in the mud, and shower with a sink sprayer, and the multiple day minimums....I just don't see the thrill or value flying out from CA. Same with OSH, but the seminars offset the overcharges sometimes. I know for many money is no issue and the experience is worth any cost but not for all of us. 
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