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08-07-2014, 10:13 PM
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BTW, Paul, your interior looks fantastic! Nice work!
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08-14-2014, 02:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Meridian ID, Aspen CO, Okemos MI
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Crow doesn't recommend CAM lock for off road?
I was all set to get the Crow 5 point system and it said "Not recommended for Off Road Use".
I like the looks of the cam but remember most of my racing friends have the buckle with a small pull strap on it. Anyone know why they don't recommend it?
Vince- you have both on the belts you have. Any reason to pick one over the other?
I would just call Crow but I am stuck in a boring meeting and I can get away with posting, but not a call!
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08-15-2014, 07:28 PM
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The latch and link is probably more common, but the camlocks are also popular.
The biggest advantage that I can see for the more expensive camlock type latch is that anyone can plug the belts into place. No fumbling with a stack of hardware parts like with the latch and link style.
Either style should be safe, secure, and comfortable, so it's largely personal preference.
"Not for offroad use" sounds like a lawyer statement meant to cover someone's backside rather than a practical or useful warning.
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08-15-2014, 07:39 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Thanks Vince. I wondered about that. I didn't see the harness sets on your site. When will they be available and will you have "kits" for different models - like the 9A I am building? I was set on Crow, but still looking!
Thanks
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08-18-2014, 02:00 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Kirkland, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vfrazier
Just before the Oshkosh show, we began carrying Raptor safety belts and harnesses. For comparison, they are similar to Crow or other well known belts and are made in the USA.
They are 2" width, 5 point harnesses, are available in all of the usual colors, come complete with the fittings that you'll need, and pads, all for one very competitive, all-inclusive price. We also offer thinner, yet still plenty beefy, mounting hardware for easier installation into typical RV attach points.
Latch and link belts are $200 and camlock belts are $300.
Since we just returned from the Oshkosh show, we don't have them up on our website yet. I'll pester Blake to get that done tonight, so check our store tomorrow if interested. Thanks.
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Vince, are those prices per seat?
Thanks,
Russ
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08-18-2014, 03:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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Put in another vote for Hookers!
While the Crows are nice, the Hookers are, well, they are hookers.
Probably the only downside is the weight. If you are trying to build light, don't use the camlocks of any brand as they are surprisingly heavy when compared to the Latch and Link style belts.

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08-19-2014, 03:24 PM
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Yes, the prices are per seat.
Yes, there will be "kits", but you can basically get whatever options you want for one basic price.
We're working on getting better photos, but taking photos of a seat belt set isn't exactly easy. Hard to show everything at once! Hopefully Blake will have them soon.
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08-27-2014, 04:29 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates
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Hooker ratchet lapstrap
Has anyone tried installing the Hooker dual strap lap belt with ratchet tightener, like used on a Pitts or similar, on a RV7? Where did you anchor the forward set of lap straps?
I love hanging in the straps......
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03-15-2015, 07:02 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Evanston, IL
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Not for Off-Road Use
I know this is an old post but to answer the question that was raised regarding the warning against off-road use, I'm guessing you were looking at a cam lock version. Cam locks specifically are not used in off-road applications because the dirt and grit get into the mechanism causing it to stop working.
I see that now you can get the Crow's with their standard Kam Lock or the Pro Formula Kam Lock. Anybody know what the difference is or have any opinions regarding the two styles? I'm in the process of trying to decide between L&L and Cam Lock for my belts.
Thanks!
Matt
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04-12-2015, 07:27 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Life savers
Crowe's saved my life in a 2008 mishap. Sounds better than a Hooker saved my life. Go with the Crowe.
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