Garmin G3X Touch v3.00 Software Available

[sneedrv-6]

Originally Posted by humptybump

I updated the G3X Touch to v3.00 and confirned it updated and that it also updated the GDL39 to v4.2.

It was very easy to "send" a flight plan from the Garmin Pilot App on my iPhone to the "internal GPS" on the G3X Touch. (the only odd behavior was that it converted my FAA recognized private airport to a user waypoint). I edited the flight plan on the G3X Touch to remove the user waypoint and add my airport back in. I then cleared the flight plan on my iPhone and tested "load from" the G3X Touch to the Garmin Pilot App. Again, it worked easily and it maintained my local airport. When I repeated the "send" plan back to the G3X Touch again, it again converted my private airport to a user waypoint. Not a big deal but an interesting anomaly.


QUESTION: How do I transfer a flight plan from the Garmin Pilot App through the G3X Touch to a GNS 400W ?

I tried a few different configurations of both the G3X Touch and the GNS400W but did not find a way to get the flight plan to load into the GNS400W.

BTW: The GNS400W is working great as the external GPS source for IFR flight plans and approach procedures.

Glen,

I have 3.0 on my g3x touch and I have the most recent firmware on my gdl39r. When I try to get my phone to connect to the g3x touch it says:

pfd config module not apple compatible

So I can not even get my phone to connect to the g3x touch much less transfer a flight plan from garmin pilot to the g3xtouch. What am I missing?

Thanks,

Jason

[Brantel]

Originally Posted by sneedrv-6

Glen,

I have 3.0 on my g3x touch and I have the most recent firmware on my gdl39r. When I try to get my phone to connect to the g3x touch it says:

pfd config module not apple compatible

So I can not even get my phone to connect to the g3x touch much less transfer a flight plan from garmin pilot to the g3xtouch. What am I missing?

Thanks,

Jason

Contact G3Xpert. They will fix you up.

[humptybump]

Hi Jason,

The answer to the underlying question is that Garmin had to update the little interface module you installed inside the GDU connector to address a comparability issue specific to Apple. It was an Apple thing.

Here's a thead that is probably what you are seeing -

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...d.php?t=119818

The good news is that G3Xpert is the solution :-)

[g3xpert]

Originally Posted by sneedrv-6

Glen,

I have 3.0 on my g3x touch and I have the most recent firmware on my gdl39r. When I try to get my phone to connect to the g3x touch it says:

pfd config module not apple compatible

What am I missing?

Thanks,

Jason

Hi Jason,

Page 2-7 of the Rev. Q G3X Installation Manual explains that a newer configuration module with an Apple required integrated circuit is required to be used in the backshell of the PFD1 G3X Touch display if you wish to use Connext capability with an Apple iOS device. Just as an FYI, we also had to receive Apple certification for the GDU 450/455/460/465 to be able to communicate in this manner to Apple devices. None of this is required for Android devices.

To test for the installation of the newer Apple iOS compatible configuration module, enter configuration mode, select the System Information page, highlight PFD1, press Menu, and run the Apple compatibility test.

We will provide a free upgrade to anyone with an older style configuration module that needs one. Just send us an email with your shipping information, and we will get a new one on the way.

Thanks,
Steve

[AlexPeterson]

Originally Posted by g3xpert

Yep, we have you covered. G3X Touch uses it's built-in BT capability to act like the Flight Stream device. So if you have a GNS 430W/530W or GTN series navigator, you will be able to use the display as the access point and it will route the flight plan information over to the GNS 430W/530W or GTN from Garmin Pilot.

If you are installing a GNS 430W/530W or GTN series navigator, there is no reason to ever install a Flight Stream unit with a G3X Touch system.

Thanks,
Brian

I know I'm quoting a 2 year old post, but I'm still not fully understanding the Connext capability with regard to FPL's.

I've got a G3X touch and a 430w, both with up to date software. I can create or edit a FPL on the Android tablet with Pilot, and it updates to both the G3X and the 430w (which requires acceptance of the imported FPL, of course). I can then modify the FPL using the 430w, and it will flow back to the G3X and the Android.

Here's the question: If I don't have the tablet turned on or even in the picture at all, should I be able to create a FPL on the G3X and send to the 430w? I can't find a way to do this. I'd REALLY like to have the G3X be the "data entry" point, with updates to the FPL's going to the 430w (for acceptance, as usual) and the tablet, when it is on.

Is there something I'm missing?

[mrj22]

I think you need to switch to the G3X as the gps source on the G3X flight plan page, edit or create the flight plan and send it to the navigator.

That is how I have done it.

Mark

[AlexPeterson]

Originally Posted by mrj22

I think you need to switch to the G3X as the gps source on the G3X flight plan page, edit or create the flight plan and send it to the navigator.

That is how I have done it.

Mark

Mark, thanks. It is the sending part that I'm stuck at. It would seem to be an incorrect or missing setup, but the fact that FPL's go from a tablet through the G3X to the 430 and vice versa seems to indicate otherwise. This transferring back and forth implies that the G3X is in external mode. If I select internal, the existing FPL is obliterated (but is still in the 430). If I initially power up, select internal, put a FPL in, there is no option to "upload" to the 430 that I can find. Simply switching to external again obliterates the FPL that was in the G3X.

[g3xpert]

Originally Posted by AlexPeterson

Mark, thanks. It is the sending part that I'm stuck at. It would seem to be an incorrect or missing setup, but the fact that FPL's go from a tablet through the G3X to the 430 and vice versa seems to indicate otherwise. This transferring back and forth implies that the G3X is in external mode. If I select internal, the existing FPL is obliterated (but is still in the 430). If I initially power up, select internal, put a FPL in, there is no option to "upload" to the 430 that I can find. Simply switching to external again obliterates the FPL that was in the G3X.

Hello Alex,

It is probably best to contact us directly at G3Xpert@garmin.com so we can work with you more efficiently, but we will try here.

First, make sure your software is up-to-date. V5.10 is the latest for the G3X Touch system and you need GNS 430W V5.20 or later for this capability.

Next, the GNS 430W needs to be wired to the PFD per page 24-16 of the Rev. AA G3X Installation Manual which includes a dedicated Connext interface. You probably already have this type of installation since you mention that the portable device can send/receive flight plans to/from the 430W.

With that in place, simply go to the flight plan page on your PFD, make sure Internal flight planning is selected, enter a flight plan, then push the Menu button. You should see a button on the Flight Plan Options page with the blue Connext symbol labeled "Send to GNS" or "Send to GTN" for those with a GTN. Press that button to send the Internal VFR flight plan to the GNS 430W.

There also seems to be some confusion regarding "Internal" versus "External" flight planning.

Use Internal flight planning for the most efficient flight planning (using the big touch screen) when operating VFR. As an added convenience, you may send the VFR flight plan to the GNS 430W anytime you like to keep it in sync, or to quickly enter the simple flight plan prior to changing to External flight planning for IFR operation. Again, select Menu on the Flight Plan page to gain access to the "Send to GNS" button.

Once you switch to External IFR flight planning, you should stick with that and make subsequent changes on the IFR navigator.

Thanks,
Steve

[AlexPeterson]

Originally Posted by g3xpert

Hello Alex,

It is probably best to contact us directly at G3Xpert@garmin.com so we can work with you more efficiently, but we will try here.

First, make sure your software is up-to-date. V5.10 is the latest for the G3X Touch system and you need GNS 430W V5.20 or later for this capability.

Next, the GNS 430W needs to be wired to the PFD per page 24-16 of the Rev. AA G3X Installation Manual which includes a dedicated Connext interface. You probably already have this type of installation since you mention that the portable device can send/receive flight plans to/from the 430W.

With that in place, simply go to the flight plan page on your PFD, make sure Internal flight planning is selected, enter a flight plan, then push the Menu button. You should see a button on the Flight Plan Options page with the blue Connext symbol labeled "Send to GNS" or "Send to GTN" for those with a GTN. Press that button to send the Internal VFR flight plan to the GNS 430W.

There also seems to be some confusion regarding "Internal" versus "External" flight planning.

Use Internal flight planning for the most efficient flight planning (using the big touch screen) when operating VFR. As an added convenience, you may send the VFR flight plan to the GNS 430W anytime you like to keep it in sync, or to quickly enter the simple flight plan prior to changing to External flight planning for IFR operation. Again, select Menu on the Flight Plan page to gain access to the "Send to GNS" button.

Once you switch to External IFR flight planning, you should stick with that and make subsequent changes on the IFR navigator.

Thanks,
Steve

Steve, thanks. Wiring and config is as per the install manual, although some 232 port numbers are different. I need to find the way to get to step 3 below from the user's guide:

"Creating an active flight plan using the G3X Touch:
1) Touch the Page Navigation Bar.
2) Touch Active FPL.
3) If an external navigator is configured, touch FPL Source > Internal."

Yes, I've been confusing external gps vs internal, as I've not seen the FPL source choice yet.

As an aside, can these steps be done if neither gps (460 or 430) has a gps lock (i.e., in the hangar)? Just makes testing more convenient...

I'll poke around some more. Again, thanks for the help.