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Old 02-24-2015, 05:05 AM
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Default F1 Rocket construction material waiver?

AircraftWraps is openly asking for a construction material building waiver!

We currently own what I consider to be a plastic F1 Rocket! One of our requirements was that the plane look like Marks F1

I will not post any non-RV/Rocket photos till I hear back... but this plane will spend a LARGE amount of time in formation with it's Metal Mafia brothers.

Feel free to tell us to take our plastic Rocket somewhere else
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Old 02-24-2015, 05:47 AM
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Default plastic Rocket

I would love to see pictures of the plastic Rocket
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Old 02-24-2015, 06:01 AM
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Cool Watching to see ...

this leads!
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Old 02-24-2015, 06:35 AM
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Good morning Mr Farnsworth!

Of course we can slow down a bit to let you fly with us! Any and all formation practice is welcome.

Your new machine is a wonderful thing, for sure. Kevin's descriptions of how it can be maneuvered are right up there with other unbelievable things I've heard, but in this case I'm pretty sure he was telling the truth. Heck, the V fin on that plane is as thick as our wing root is!

As for 'paint jobs', you would be the one to claim there is no limit - and you would be correct.

I gotta have a ride in it for sure.

Carry on!
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Old 02-24-2015, 07:25 AM
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Mark,

"Paint Jobs"??? What is this term Is that something they did in the 50s? :b

We call them "color schemes" to be wrapped

PS I already printed "RV PARKING/CAMPING" on my Sun n Fun and Oshkosh arrival sheets to show the ground controllers. Now my printer ran out of ink! You know the price of printer ink!? I'm pretty much committed now

I still have the RV8, I just dont want to lose the great brotherhood this community shares when I "have" to fly plastic.

BTW, your art is being produced this week
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Old 02-24-2015, 07:38 AM
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Default So THAT's what it is called

"Color Scheme" - got it. I am working on my next ship - maybe I ought to get you to do it up, tho the scheme I have picked is pretty simple.

Thanks for doing up my new nose art - you gonna drop in and help me make a mockery of the install? I can probably do that myself...

If you recall, I AM a lot of help with installing the graphics..

Carry on!
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Old 05-07-2015, 07:23 AM
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Guys flying the sport wing:

Can you describe the short field performance, primarily landing, over a 50ft obstacle..
PS..I have already talked to Smokey, as we have similar grass fields, just gathering additional information.. speeds/power/techniques

interested in both solo at around 1700ish with fwd CG, and dual near MGW..

I live on a grass field with trees at both ends.. 2000 ft cutout, 1400ft runway 600ft elev. so every landing in every plane is a chop and drop to a 300ft displaced threshold. I have not had an RV type aircraft in there yet.. any takers? II28 indiana?

data point: A stock 172 gets in fine, and out with a soft/short 10 deg flap for t/o, and 30deg for landing.. a 150 will just barely and I mean barely get out (been done once

I took my first rocket ride recently.. its the only plane I have ever flown that gives me the feeling of sitting in the F-16 again.

thank you rocket drivers... dave

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Old 05-07-2015, 11:44 AM
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Dave, I'm closing in on 200 hours on my Rocket now, so until someone comes along to elaborate or correct me I'll say that the standard wing is very forgiving up to and past the critical AOA. Combine this with the Rocket's ridiculous power to weight and you have an airplane that you can drag around by the prop, controlling descent rate with only the throttle. This is not a "chop and drop" however, because you will need a well timed burst of power at the round out. In short, the Rocket is almost immune from getting behind the power curve- if the wing is still flying, then you will almost certainly have enough excess thrust to climb/accelerate.

Having said all that, if a 172 can get in and out of your strip, then a Rocket should have zero issues.
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Old 05-07-2015, 03:05 PM
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Thank you Michael, good info.. I did notice that it was easy to control the decent rate with the big speed brake in front.. I don't have a lot of CSProp time, so will see that more and more as I pick up time in CS birds..

I would think that the landing roll is shortened with the CS prop in idle as well once on the ground vs. a FP prop RV type.. but I don't have a lot of comparisons to relate to..


What approach speed range do you use for shorter ops?

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Old 05-07-2015, 05:39 PM
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While a CS prop does make an effective speed brake, thats not what I'm describing here. In this case, the "speed brake" is the wing set to very near the critical AOA. As we all know, the drag curve is nearly vertical here, and lift has just about tapped out, so you're flying as much on the prop as the wing. In a lower powered airplane, you can fall off the back side of the power curve and full throttle will not overcome the high drag of the wing... You will continue to settle at full power and more back stick only makes it worse. The Rocket is tough to get in that situation because of excess power and a benign wing however, so you really can drag it in at nearly the critical AoA and adjust throttle to suit the required glide slope. The main danger is engine failure however, because the instant that big wind generator on the nose quits blowing air over the wing and flaps, you're done.

There is a significant difference in stall speed between idle and just a touch of power with a prop that big.

The bottom line is that you can fly an approach at a slower airspeed carying a bunch of power than you can at idle in a staight gliding approach.
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