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02-08-2015, 12:27 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
Posts: 9,027
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanH
(that loud thunk was poor 'ole Van hitting the floor  )
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 I needed a good laugh today........
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02-08-2015, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,761
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Safety?
I believe that the most prevalent cause of engine failure is fuel starvation.
If one engine runs out of fuel, the other won't be far behind.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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02-08-2015, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: La Center,wa
Posts: 209
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel
I believe that the most prevalent cause of engine failure is fuel starvation.
If one engine runs out of fuel, the other won't be far behind.
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My thoughts as well.
Tim
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02-08-2015, 01:08 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sydney, Aust.
Posts: 820
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Just take your RV-10 and strap a pair of Rotax 914's either side of the nose. The weight and balance should come out pretty close to an IO-540. Cost should be comparable to a new IO-540 and you now have the advantage of a true 200HP upto FL160!
Jabiru did it with their J430.
Photo courtesy of Australian Aviation magazine.

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02-08-2015, 01:30 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 669
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The first link is based on an RV-6...
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RV-7, IO-360, BA Hartzell, N847CR
Flying since 2008
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02-08-2015, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Leiden, netherlands
Posts: 3
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Quite a few people feel that with centerline trust, a light twin would be a good alternative.
2 VW's for a two-seater, or maybe two Rotaxes (Rotaii?)/ULpower 4-bangers for a 2+2.
Here is a lot more discussion:
http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/fo...tlemaster.html
With an otherwise simple plane (fixed gear etc) that'd be something that might be in the same league as an RV in terms of operating cost and performance.
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02-08-2015, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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The numbers for the Velocity V Twin look really impressive. The prototype has a pair of O-320's on it and yet it still performs well.
The problem with this and all canards is they take a long runway but with the V Twin being a pusher, they were able to put the engines close together and eliminate the asymmetric thrust issue experienced by most twins with one engine out. That and the "un-stallable" characteristics of the canard makes it a great cruising machine.
There is a guy who is building a twin out of an RV-6A. I don't think it has flown yet.
My only issue with a twin is it doubles your chance of an engine failure. That said, the Velocity V Twin sure looks like a nice plane!
One thing I really like about all the RV's is that if there is an airport depicted on a chart, your RV can land there. Well, as long as there isn't an "H" in the middle of the circle.
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RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
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02-08-2015, 03:50 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,144
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There is a twin RV8 under construction north of 38th parallel. I spoke with the builder two years ago very ambitious and impressive project. Insurance was the major roadblock as I understood it.
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02-08-2015, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 1,301
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British twin kit
Don't recall the name, but it was two seat tandem, aerobatic. However, at a time when an RV-6 kit was $15, they wanted $100 for their kit. You can count the number of kits they sold on the fingers of one foot.
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02-08-2015, 04:12 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuttle, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,563
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joe gremlin
Chutes don't have the best track record when used over water. In the one Cirrus over water chute deployment I'm aware of, the single occupant suffered a serious low back injury on touchdown. Something to do with the fact that the landing gear are designed to crush on impact with the ground thus aiding in the deceleration process and they tend not to crush on impact with the water thus raising the g-loads on impact.
In that case the guy was lucky. There were people nearby that were able to help him out of the plane and into their boat before the plane sank. Had it happened miles from anyone, he may have drown.
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I gather from your comment you have not seen or heard about this Coast Guard footage released last week of a Cirrus parachute deployment over water near Hawaii:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gBCUQlF3MMU
It appeared to me to be a fairly benign touch down even in rough seas. The only thing that bothers me is how quickly the chute filled with water and drug the plane down. I would be more concerned with that issue especially if the chute drug the plane over on the open door side.
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