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01-18-2015, 09:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mequon, WI
Posts: 114
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How long after passing the knowledge test must we have completed the practical Sport Pilot test?
The FAA publication "Practical Test Standards" p. 7 is confusing: "an applicant...is required to have passed the appropriate sport pilot knowledge test since the beginning of the 24th month before the month in which he...takes a practical test."
Does this mean take the practical test a month before your 2 year knowledge test expires?
So if I passed the knowledge test Oct. 2, 2013, by what date must I take the practical test?
Tim
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01-18-2015, 09:54 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,797
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practical test no later than October 31 2015.
Just like your medical or Flight Review, you get a grace period to the end of the month.
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01-18-2015, 10:38 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Iowa
Posts: 164
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A Sport Pilot aspirant can fly dual in any airplane. You don't need an LSA equivalent plane for that. You do need an LSA equivalent plane to fly solo. Any plane that meets light sport criteria works, could be SLSA, ELSA, Standard (like a J3 cub) or E-AB.
To apply the training to a higher rating, you want to use a CFI under FAR 61 Subpart H. A sport pilot CFI is subpart K. If you are to solo a plane that goes more than 87 Vh you need some hood time. Most argue that takes a Subpart H CFI, not a Subpart K (although some K's will argue till the cows come home). 61.93e(12)
Some argue that if you bust a medical you can fly a glider (and some gliders are long winged airplanes that let you fly over 10K) without a DL medical.
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01-25-2015, 09:20 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mequon, WI
Posts: 114
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Practical test requirements. Cross country?
For the Sport certificate I don't see any requirements before taking the FAA Practical test for Any cross country flight. I only see that Sport requires just ability to "plan" cross country.
Could that be correct?
Tim
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01-25-2015, 09:40 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Barneveld, NY
Posts: 189
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You do have to meet the cross country training requirements in order to be signed off for your check ride as a SP. You will also plan and start off on your planned cross country as a part of your check ride. Expect a fair number of questions to be based off this flight planning and a review of the chart you have marked up for that flight. For the specific flight training requirements review 61.313. Here is the chart with those requirements:
?61.313 What aeronautical experience must I have to apply for a sport pilot certificate?
Use the following table to determine the aeronautical experience you must have to apply for a sport pilot certificate:
If you are applying for a sport pilot certificate with . . . Then you must log at least . . . Which must include at least . . .
(a) Airplane category and single-engine land or sea class privileges, (1) 20 hours of flight time, including at least 15 hours of flight training from an authorized instructor in a single-engine airplane and at least 5 hours of solo flight training in the areas of operation listed in ?61.311, (i) 2 hours of cross-country flight training, (ii) 10 takeoffs and landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport, (iii) One solo cross-country flight of at least 75 nautical miles total distance, with a full-stop landing at a minimum of two points and one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 25 nautical miles between the takeoff and landing locations, and (iv) 2 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in ?61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
(b) Glider category privileges, and you have not logged at least 20 hours of flight time in a heavier-than-air aircraft, (1) 10 hours of flight time in a glider, including 10 flights in a glider receiving flight training from an authorized instructor and at least 2 hours of solo flight training in the areas of operation listed in ?61.311, (i) Five solo launches and landings, and (ii) at least 3 training flights with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in ?61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
(c) Glider category privileges, and you have logged 20 hours flight time in a heavier-than-air aircraft, (1) 3 hours of flight time in a glider, including five flights in a glider while receiving flight training from an authorized instructor and at least 1 hour of solo flight training in the areas of operation listed in ?61.311, (i) Three solo launches and landings, and (ii) at least 3 training flights with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in ?61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
(d) Rotorcraft category and gyroplane class privileges, (1) 20 hours of flight time, including 15 hours of flight training from an authorized instructor in a gyroplane and at least 5 hours of solo flight training in the areas of operation listed in ?61.311, (i) 2 hours of cross-country flight training, (ii) 10 takeoffs and landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport, (iii) One solo cross-country flight of at least 50 nautical miles total distance, with a full-stop landing at a minimum of two points, and one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 25 nautical miles between the takeoff and landing locations, and (iv) 2 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in ?61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
(e) Lighter-than-air category and airship class privileges, (1) 20 hours of flight time, including 15 hours of flight training from an authorized instructor in an airship and at least 3 hours performing the duties of pilot in command in an airship with an authorized instructor in the areas of operation listed in ?61.311, (i) 2 hours of cross-country flight training, (ii) Three takeoffs and landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport, (iii) One cross-country flight of at least 25 nautical miles between the takeoff and landing locations, and (iv) 2 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in ?61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
(f) Lighter-than-air category and balloon class privileges, (1) 7 hours of flight time in a balloon, including three flights with an authorized instructor and one flight performing the duties of pilot in command in a balloon with an authorized instructor in the areas of operation listed in ?61.311, (i) 2 hours of cross-country flight training, and (ii) 1 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in ?61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
(g) Powered parachute category land or sea class privileges, (1) 12 hours of flight time in a powered parachute, including 10 hours of flight training from an authorized instructor in a powered parachute, and at least 2 hours of solo flight training in the areas of operation listed in ?61.311 (i) 1 hour of cross-country flight training, (ii) 20 takeoffs and landings to a full stop in a powered parachute with each landing involving flight in the traffic pattern at an airport; (iii) 10 solo takeoffs and landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport, (iv) One solo flight with a landing at a different airport and one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 10 nautical miles between takeoff and landing locations, and (v) 1 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in ?61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
(h) Weight-shift-control aircraft category land or sea class privileges, (1) 20 hours of light time, including 15 hours of flight training from an authorized instructor in a weight-shift-control aircraft and at least 5 hours of solo flight training in the areas of operation listed in ?61.311, (i) 2 hours of cross-country flight training, (ii) 10 takeoffs and landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport, (iii) One solo cross-country flight of at least 50 nautical miles total distance, with a full-stop landing at a minimum of two points, and one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 25 nautical miles between takeoff and landing locations, and (iv) 2 hours of flight training with an authorized instructor on those areas of operation specified in ?61.311 in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
[Doc. No. FAA-2001-11133, 69 FR 44869, July 27, 2004; Amdt. 61-124A, 74 FR 53647, Oct. 20, 2009; Amdt. 61-125, 75 FR 5221, Feb. 1, 2010]
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01-25-2015, 09:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mequon, WI
Posts: 114
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Thankyou carl.....this is looking more difficult all the time.
Very helpful though ..... Hope to get hru this before end of summer.
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RV-12. SLSA
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01-25-2015, 09:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Barneveld, NY
Posts: 189
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Tim,
It is a journey. It is more a question of persistence than difficulty. I found that training multiple times a week really helped in expediting getting my SP ticket. The cross country part is pretty straightforward. You will get it knocked out.
Carl
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01-26-2015, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 2,820
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Tim,
A good CFI will guide you through to a license with minimal hassle.
Rich
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01-26-2015, 05:36 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mequon, WI
Posts: 114
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Thankyou Rich, Carl, Bob...it's been a long haul with most recent, gas float problem causing only one flight sinc last July when Found gas running out....finally fixed Saturday hopefully with new floats. Looking better now.
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RV-12. SLSA
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