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Old 01-21-2015, 07:20 PM
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Default Brake hoses

Has anyone switched their hoses to ss Teflon lined hoses and if so do you have the measurements?
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:36 PM
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Ron---Steve and I are working with a beta tester right now on RV14 teflon hoses. We should have some details shortly.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:43 AM
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Perfect, thanks. Any chance you are including a park brake?
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:35 AM
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Ron,

As one of the early adopters of Tom's product on the RV-10, he'll treat you right. Even if he doesn't have production units ready, Tom is great at one off customizations.

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Old 01-22-2015, 06:47 AM
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well- I dont see why not. Valves are available from Vans and others. The initial hose routings didnt include a valve. I didnt see anything on the plans, but certainly there could be a place and the output hoses modified to accommodate the valve. The hose package is being developed with -3 hoses. There will be more on this later!
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:40 AM
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Our beta tester should have the last few hoses today. We will then be complete with the cabin brake hose setup for the -a model.

We also have a beta tester waiting to test out the tailwheel version hoses as soon as the nose wheel version is finalized.

We also have cabin fuel lines almost done. We are going to be doing something different with these. They will be a combination of flex lines and also CNC bent rigid tubing. This allows us to provide the most cost efficient and lightweight package. We are upgrading all the rigid tubing to a much higher quality aluminum than 3003.

Tom and I will post some updates once it is all finalized.
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:39 PM
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:44 PM
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The cabin brake lines supplied by Vans do work. They are light and cheap. However in my experience I have had some minor leaks in the cabin, most likely due to some error I have made. However with properly manufactured aircraft hoses this had not been an issue for me thus my preference. They are heavier and obviously more expensive.
I am sure you will get lots of opinions on this issue, I absolutely hate oil on the cabin floor. (not to mention a brake that does not work)
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:04 PM
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Once you have experienced a brake fire because the nyloseal, or whatever plastic brake lines are installed, have ruptured due to high heat in the wheel pant, you will never again use anything but stainless braided lines for brakes. I watched my Pitts beautiful new carbon fibre wheel pant burning away after fire broke out, the brake pedal went to the floor, and I was lucky to have a bottle of water with me that barely extinguished it. This was after a long taxi on a very hot day and illustrates how hot it can get inside a wheel pant.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:36 PM
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probably very little cooling air in the wheel pants, brake heat transfered to the disc, the pads, the caliper, the hose--oops--yep will leak.
Ever watch a NASCAR race at Richmond at nite? We certainly dont do that, the it really doesnt take much brake drag to heat things up. Maybe I'll test mine when the time comes.
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